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Re: When you die...

Postby Dazz » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:22 am

I've downloaded the whole (excluding Asylum) series, wanted to maranthon them starting Monday, but my mom has had an argument or break up or something (I don't care to ask), with her boyfriend and has moved in with me, along with bringing my little brother, so I'll have to limit it to a few episode a night...I'll probs get back to you within two weeks giving my opinion of best to worst.

The dreamic element of Vampyr makes it doubly difficult for me to watch as I want to sleep, to be fair though I ain't a fan of the Dracula type of vampire, I grew up watching Buffy, Lost Boys, Blade...being those types of vamps was very appealing to me as a kid, especially since I was terrified of death, the first time I watched the "classic" Bela Lugosi Dracula, I fell asleep, Nosferatu was good and I expected Werner Herzogs to be good too, but no it was boring, no fault of the actors or director (some great imagery), its just Drac's bores me.
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Re: When you die...

Postby naps » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:13 pm

Dazz wrote:I've downloaded the whole (excluding Asylum) series, wanted to maranthon them starting Monday, but my mom has had an argument or break up or something (I don't care to ask), with her boyfriend and has moved in with me, along with bringing my little brother, so I'll have to limit it to a few episode a night...I'll probs get back to you within two weeks giving my opinion of best to worst.


None of them is as good as Asylum. Some are dreadful.

The dreamic element of Vampyr makes it doubly difficult for me to watch as I want to sleep, to be fair though I ain't a fan of the Dracula type of vampire, I grew up watching Buffy, Lost Boys, Blade...being those types of vamps was very appealing to me as a kid, especially since I was terrified of death, the first time I watched the "classic" Bela Lugosi Dracula, I fell asleep, Nosferatu was good and I expected Werner Herzogs to be good too, but no it was boring, no fault of the actors or director (some great imagery), its just Drac's bores me.


I was never that big on vampires, either. Not even the more modern stuff. I do like when the genre is perverted, like in Abel Ferrara's "The Addiction" or, to a lesser extent, Morrissey's "Blood for Dracula", which wasn't nearly as good as "Flesh for Frankenstein"
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Re: When you die...

Postby Dazz » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:53 pm

I have The Addiction, haven't got round to watching it yet, and I'm a big Paul Morrissey fan but prefer Dracula to Frankenstein, interesting reversal as I prefer the classic Universal Frankenstein (and even more so Bride) to its Dracula.

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Re: When you die...

Postby naps » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:18 pm

Haha.

Oh man I love "Flesh for Frankenstein". I saw it theatrically. In 3D. In a mall multiplex. Those were the days.

Do you like "Mixed Blood" or am I the only one? I defy you to say Marília Pêra wasn't ######6 amazing in that.
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Re: When you die...

Postby Dazz » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:44 pm

I like Mixed Blood, I don't bother with most peoples opinions on films, too many love or hate films because thats whats expected of them or are too pretentious or philistines.

And yes Pêra is great and fully pulls off being a matriarchal leader of a gang. I used to think P.T. Anderson got the title of There Will Be Blood from Saw, but I wouldn't be surprised if he got it from her mouth.
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Re: When you die...

Postby naps » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:57 pm

Dazz wrote:I don't bother with most peoples opinions on films, too many love or hate films because thats whats expected of them or are too pretentious or philistines.


Agreed. I know some hardcore cinephiles and I want to poison them.

I have the Mixed Blood one-sheet on my wall. I haven't looked it up, but I'm guessing it's rare.

Do you like the Flesh/Heat/Trash trilogy? What's your Dx for Andrea Feldman? I'm guessing schizotypal bordering on schizophrenic.
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Re: When you die...

Postby Dazz » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:43 am

I love the trilogy (Heat is the weakest one, but I might be biased as its inspired by Sunset Boulevard, one of my 10 fave films), Trash is my fave and is also at the No.1 stop for 1970 of my faves.

I had watched Chelsea Girls many years ago, and was thoroughly disappointed, I had checked out a few of Warhol films (not bothering to finish most) and had written off anything connected to him (exception being The Velvet Underground and Nico)...it wasn't that Chelsea Girls was completely bad, just boring and at the time I didn't know most of the people in it.

About 3/4yrs ago I gave Flesh a chance (can't remember why now) and straight away had to watch the rest of the trilogy and other Morrissey films after that.

Feldman to me just come across as a drugged out girl, but when I read what you said it did all of a sudden occur to me as a possibility (though I am right about her being drugged out).
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Re: When you die...

Postby naps » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:13 am

I like Heat the most. I have an obsession with Feldman, and she's in the whole thing. Trash is the best, though.

I have an all region player so I got an Italian boxed set of many of the early Warhol films :mrgreen: . I'm fascinated by his whole scene, so "Chelsea Girls" is a great who's who kind of variety show to me. I don't mind the minimalism, not in any of them. As long as they don't get too chatty.

Morrissey is a prick in real life. He talked smack about Warhol after he died, taking credit for a lot of things everybody says he was not responsible for. But the cosmos is not on his side, apparently, because Warhol died on his birthday and he got hit by a car in New York a couple years ago.

Yes, Andrea was on drugs but she was a very sick girl. She jumped out of a window with a bible and a can of coke. You can see the psychic discomfort in her face on screen.
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Re: When you die...

Postby Dazz » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:46 am

lol I like Morrissey, he's a major troll, I question the Warhol devotees but also Morrissey (but Joe Dallesandro and Holly Woodlawn back him up on things), but side more with the latter as he's films are so much different to Warhols eariler ones.

Do you like Andy Warhol's Bad? I think its great, but just wish the male lead was played by Dallesandro. Also I have The Nude Restaurant saved on my computer, it any good?
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Re: When you die...

Postby naps » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:21 pm

Dazz wrote:lol I like Morrissey, he's a major troll, I question the Warhol devotees but also Morrissey (but Joe Dallesandro and Holly Woodlawn back him up on things), but side more with the latter as he's films are so much different to Warhols eariler ones.


what I understand is he came to the factory with ambitions of filmmaking, knowing he would be in Warhol's shadow and got frustrated with all the little things, not least of all being Andy's laissez faire attitude. He was the true blooded filmmaker while Warhol was just a fashionable tourist, which is true, but rather than placating Warhos's ego, he allowed his own ego to feel caged by Warhol's shadow, and rather than trudging on and improving his skills as the world fawned over Andy's ridiculousness (you do know his films were just a joke to him, right?), he internalized it with an altogether too hasty quest for fame and became embittered.

With "Beethoven's Nephew", which I liked, he seemed to be integrating himself with more commercial filmmaking, which I believe he was ready for, at least technically, and I wonder why he didn't stay the course. Of course it could all be due to the perpetual uncertainty of a fledgling filmmaker's conduit to employment, or the stink of the miasma of Hollywood, but I wonder if it was this same bitterness that held him back and adhered him to his own personal vision, which is a fine thing, but also detrimental when you need the flexibility to balance yourself between underground filmmaking and more commercial avenues of expression.

BTW I LOVE "Bad". And yes, Dallesandro would have been a far funnier foil to Caroll Baker than Perry King. My only complaint is that the tension between King and Baker's characters that was hinted at throughout the film never came to a head, it just sort of fizzled out. And the sort-of non-sequitur ending still confuses me. Was Susan Tyrell's final line ("Looks aren't everything") supposed to be profound or absurd?

I haven't watched "The Nude Restaurant" yet. It's been like 10 years since I got the set, and I still haven't braved them all. "Nude Restaurant" is awfully talky, and while I'm anxious to see more of Brigid Berlin (my favorite superstar), every time Taylor Mead opens his mouth I want to pour concrete in my ears and bash my head against a wall. Insufferable little f-aggot that he was.
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