vortexvoid wrote:not trying to hijack, but this part really struck me and i am hoping you'd be willing to elaborate. what are the childhood experiences that you link to that phenomenon of unpleasant obligatory feelings? (your own experiences, if you're open to sharing, or a more general idea)
Generally speaking, I meant something like what I described later:
zeno wrote:And it's something you were probably discouraged (probably strongly discouraged) from learning at the critical age for that in your childhood. You were probably told what you do or don't like (or your self-expressed individuality was just outright denied for no particular reason), and your complaints to the contrary were probably punished or ignored.
Things like "stop crying!" when you're not just throwing a tantrum, or "I know you like this food, why are you complaining?" when you actually never said or showed that you liked it (and maybe the only reason why you never complained before was fear of punishment). A general pattern of negative reinforcement with simply no positive reinforcement, and with loads of assumptions with no room for response.
Or more subtle but insidious things like "you don't have to do this for me, but I'm tired and in pain, I don't think I can do it myself" (making it obvious that "you're a bad person" if you don't want to help). A general pattern of judging you and making you feel guilty for the way you feel about things, instead of judging you by your actions or simply asking you or telling you to do something. As if your will is supposed to be exactly their will, as if it's wrong to have a separate will of your own.