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Re: Psychiatric ward experience

Postby slimsally » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:22 pm

PerplexedMan wrote:Grandiose dellusions? That's really interesting. Did you try to preach some sort of message or communicate this fact to people or was it just something you experienced? Also, may I ask which SSRI's you were on?


It was just something I experienced. I became very inward during that time (even more so than usual). It was hard for me to relate to or trust anyone during that time. I was on fluoxetine (Prozac). SSRIs are more likely to cause bad reactions in teens. Interestingly, there are several school shooters who were on SSRIs when they committed their crimes. I'm not saying SSRIs caused the crimes, but they might have contributed to the decision to carry out the act. Not everyone has bad reactions, and at the time I was taking it, I wasn't even aware that there were side effects. No one told me, and as a teenager, I assumed all medicine was good.

PerplexedMan wrote:I was shocked to know by way of the psychiatrists that respiradone can cause dellusions and hallucinations. I mean if I am already to suffer from these how is this side effect supposed to help me?

Another thing they put me on was aripriprazole. This is the nastiest pill I have ever taken and would recommend anyone being offered this to seek other alternatives. Severe insomnia, irritability and weakness.


I was almost put on Abilify (aripriprazole)! They wanted me to take it in the hospital. I refused. Those types of drugs are very powerful, but the trade off is worth it for some people. I have a friend with Bipolar I, and she absolutely can't function without her meds. It has caused significant weight gain and a host of other side effects, but she needs it.

UK SPD wrote:I had what was called a psychotic breakdown over four years ago, in which I committed a crime with the hope of being sent to prison (reasons complex, but boil down to wanting to retreat into a hole while also wanting to be punished - a form of self-harm or pseudo-suicide, I've been told).


Do you know why you had a psychotic break? That's an awfully long time to be psychotic. I was on SSRIs for two years, and I feel that experience nearly ruined my life.
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Re: Psychiatric ward experience

Postby Runestone » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:28 am

I like to point out, that when "you" claim something, in a specific context, like "you are prone to develop schizophrenia, as a schizoid, if you undergo extreme stress", then you better have some source to back it up.

It is not enough, to just claim something, and have no Scientific proof, or atleast a reference to your source of information.

I like to know, from where you got your arguments. If you can not come up with that, im not taking you serious.

Example: you say, that extreme stress and depression, can lead a schizoid in to a schozophrenic, but i ought to be schizophrenic then. Soo your argument is not valid, and simply a vaste of time, unless you can come up with some more evidence, and not just talk.
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Re: Psychiatric ward experience

Postby PerplexedMan » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:26 am

Runestone wrote:I like to point out, that when "you" claim something, in a specific context, like "you are prone to develop schizophrenia, as a schizoid, if you undergo extreme stress", then you better have some source to back it up.

It is not enough, to just claim something, and have no Scientific proof, or atleast a reference to your source of information.

I like to know, from where you got your arguments. If you can not come up with that, im not taking you serious.

Example: you say, that extreme stress and depression, can lead a schizoid in to a schozophrenic, but i ought to be schizophrenic then. Soo your argument is not valid, and simply a vaste of time, unless you can come up with some more evidence, and not just talk.


I can't remember who made this claim. But it's worth anything please check out http://selfdefinition.org/psychology/R- ... d-Self.pdf "the Divided Self" which makes a connection between schizophrenia and schizoid PD. It also mentions that schizophrenia is an extension of schizoid PD and occurs when all the madness which was successfully buried comes out to the forefront. A sort of bursting of all the pipes. Have a look.
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Re: Psychiatric ward experience

Postby Runestone » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:17 pm

PerplexedMan wrote:
Runestone wrote:I like to point out, that when "you" claim something, in a specific context, like "you are prone to develop schizophrenia, as a schizoid, if you undergo extreme stress", then you better have some source to back it up.

It is not enough, to just claim something, and have no Scientific proof, or atleast a reference to your source of information.

I like to know, from where you got your arguments. If you can not come up with that, im not taking you serious.

Example: you say, that extreme stress and depression, can lead a schizoid in to a schozophrenic, but i ought to be schizophrenic then. Soo your argument is not valid, and simply a vaste of time, unless you can come up with some more evidence, and not just talk.


I can't remember who made this claim. But it's worth anything please check out http://selfdefinition.org/psychology/R- ... d-Self.pdf "the Divided Self" which makes a connection between schizophrenia and schizoid PD. It also mentions that schizophrenia is an extension of schizoid PD and occurs when all the madness which was successfully buried comes out to the forefront. A sort of bursting of all the pipes. Have a look.



Thank you. Very interesting stuff indeed. I will try to read it. It may take a little while, but i really apreciate your effort. I keep you posted :)
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Re: Psychiatric ward experience

Postby zeno » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:26 pm

PerplexedMan wrote:I can't remember who made this claim. But it's worth anything please check out http://selfdefinition.org/psychology/R- ... d-Self.pdf "the Divided Self" which makes a connection between schizophrenia and schizoid PD. It also mentions that schizophrenia is an extension of schizoid PD and occurs when all the madness which was successfully buried comes out to the forefront. A sort of bursting of all the pipes. Have a look.

I remember I read that book, and it was interesting, but I think it's from a time when they didn't know yet that schizophrenia is a neurologically-based disease. So while the perspective is still interesting, the theory itself is outdated.
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Re: Psychiatric ward experience

Postby Akuma » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:10 pm

zeno wrote:schizophrenia is a neurologically-based disease.


Every mental illness is neurological, it's kind of a meaningless definition imo. But the nature vs nurture thing is outdated itself.
If you're bored someday check this f.e. -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxVY2Vptfwg
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Re: Psychiatric ward experience

Postby pixiefox » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:44 pm

I just got out of the ward. I was shocked again, erotomania is still with me a bit, I feel very numb every time I get out of there, it's cool tho it's a nice numbness.
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Re: Psychiatric ward experience

Postby Runestone » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:12 am

sorry if i came out, super negative, regarding the "source of information" that i wanted as a back up for the claims.
In general, a source is always a good thing, to keep the discution valid and to be able to let others make their own judgment.

It seem that i am hopelessly outdated, when it come's to modern psychology and psychiatry, since my latest updates, are from the 80' and all the way back to Freud and Jung. Soo i am not able to comment on the topic of this post.

I really like the video you posted Akuma. I have severe schizophrenia, in my family histore. My grandmother was a schizophrenia, and the video answered, a lot of questions, that i been wanting to ask.
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