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The good, without the bad and the ugly

Postby Runestone » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:28 pm

Soo what is the good aspects, about being schizoid.

What would you descripe as the "force", and the "quality" of this personality disoder.

I know there are a lot of negative symptoms involved, but let's try to bring out, some of the positive things in our lifes.
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Re: The good, without the bad and the ugly

Postby Necrionos » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:29 pm

The positive aspects of schizoid people show themselves above all in sovereign self-sufficient and independence, in the courage to self, to the autonomy of the individual. Sharp observation, affectless-cool objectivity, critical and incorruptible look for facts, the courage to see things like this As they are, without mitigating or emollient incrustations, are among their strengths: they are the least cramped by traditions and dogmas of any kind, they do not depend on anything, do not take over anything before they have examined it and thought it through, unsentimental, hate it They have an ironic-satirical aspect and a keen eye for the weaknesses of others, which is why they are difficult to deceive and they can be deceived Are often "uncomfortable" in the human contact, because they are less willing to accept falsehood and facade.
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or short version: we are able to make the right decisions, without being influenced by irrational feelings.
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Re: The good, without the bad and the ugly

Postby Ashlar » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:11 am

At our best, like if you were to take everything good about the "disorder" and bring it out to it's best...

No ties to social dogma, roles, etc. If sufficiently intelligent, a fantastic judge.

Possibly a better mate when it comes down to peoples inhibitions, I somehow have made some people happy by having no problem with their own particular things. I'm not into them, but I can play along easily.

The ugly is, from my experience, that what I am is not what anyone normative wants. I might fit for a time, but over the long term I'm a horrifying aberration.
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Re: The good, without the bad and the ugly

Postby UK SPD » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:33 am

I don't think you need to be SPD to display all the 'good' personality traits listed above - and if you have all those traits it is probable that SPD will make you less able to use them well.
It's a disorder.
The schizoid part of the name implies a tendency to depart from reality, into fantasy - which is why we're loners. It doesn't mean that we're sharp thinkers (which we may coincidentally be).
People who are diagnosed are in a psychiatrist/psychologist/psychoanalyst's office for a reason, and it isn't because they are well adjusted individuals (my diagnosis was done in prison).
Yes, there may be SPD people on this forum who have diagnosed themselves and are content in themselves - well done (especially if you have those good traits) - but I'm sure you're a small minority.
Sorry for the negativity.
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Re: The good, without the bad and the ugly

Postby Reynolds » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:18 pm

UK SPD wrote:People who are diagnosed are in a psychiatrist/psychologist/psychoanalyst's office for a reason, and it isn't because they are well adjusted individuals (my diagnosis was done in prison).
Yes, there may be SPD people on this forum who have diagnosed themselves and are content in themselves - well done (especially if you have those good traits) - but I'm sure you're a small minority.
Sorry for the negativity.


The reason I was in the psychologist's office was that I was with my then teen age goddaughter when she got the results of her testing because she has schizophrenia. When he told her that she had schizoid tendencies I asked him what was "schizoid"? When he gave the answer my goddaughter and I both looked at each other because he was describing me. When I told him that and that I felt I was well adjusted and comfortable with who I am he was curious and since that was my clinic also he told me I should get a referral from my primary care physician for testing and so I did. The diagnosis was definitely schizoid, but not a typical schizoid. But being schizoid is like being pregnant---either you are or you aren't, but some are more far along in being pregnant than others.

SPD can be like having lost a limb where it can have a very negative impact on your life and affects some people for all their lives. But some learn to overcome it like a vet who has lost a leg but whose life eventually becomes pretty normal, being able to do what they please. My being schizoid was like that because as a young man it did affect me in trying to make myself be what I was not and to fit into society's expectations. But as I matured and grew to accept myself for who I was and to be well adjusted. I appear "normal", but honestly, do we really "know" the people we see casually? Do we really know what they are like in private and what are their choices? No.
So in public I just wear a mask like so many others do as well and it makes my life easier in making that small effort to fit in.
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Re: The good, without the bad and the ugly

Postby Runestone » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:24 pm

UK SPD; i have to remind you to stick to the guideline as desceiped in the first post.

Any negative comments or such matters, belong to another topic, that you are welcome to start yourself, if you wish to do soo.
Otherwise keep "the bad and the ugly" out of this topic, thank you.

Let's get back on track, and see if we can resurect the topic, after "UK SPD" put it to death :roll:
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Re: The good, without the bad and the ugly

Postby Reynolds » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:49 pm

OK,'a' good: you don't overstay your welcome and have people wish "why don't you shut up already and let me go".
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Re: The good, without the bad and the ugly

Postby Akuma » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:08 pm

Runestone wrote:Soo what is the good aspects, about being schizoid.

What would you descripe as the "force", and the "quality" of this personality disoder.

I know there are a lot of negative symptoms involved, but let's try to bring out, some of the positive things in our lifes.


Necro already pointed at it, I will restate it because I actually think that this is a very good thing. We dont have so much emotional BS, so we are less likely to be dragged into buying and consuming stuff we dont need, less likely to respond to emotional manipulation tactics and ultimately we are more objective. For example I had to move two months ago because they wanted to demolish the house I was having an apartment in - needed a new fridge, too. So I go online, select the fridge with the best price-performance ratio for my needs. My mom - who wanted to pay for it - for some reason wante dto buy it offline, so well we go into a local hardware store and I tell the dude there what I want. So he starts with his pathetic attempt to convince me I need a way better, bigger and more expensive thing. Resulting in me tipping my fingers on his shoulder, telling him to shut up and leaving. And yea. Got the new fridge online. Cheap, good-looking, silent, great.
On the other hand side I want to start psychoanalysis soon. My PA actually advertised some respect and appreciation of the symptoms; because it reduces a lot of BS that people have to deal with. For exampel you dont turn into an emotional wreck over some love thing and you overall have less stress resulting from relationship issues for example. Now I dont really follow his math here, but in a way he is right of course. Having such a tempered internal world wihth the result of being quite unaffected by the more weird aspects of human interaction is kind of a positive and being relatively independent of outside input also is something that - at least for the pure pwSPD - will probably be pretty acceptable at least.
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Re: The good, without the bad and the ugly

Postby Runestone » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:53 pm

Reynolds wrote:OK,'a' good: you don't overstay your welcome and have people wish "why don't you shut up already and let me go".



Ha ha, true :lol:
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Re: The good, without the bad and the ugly

Postby slimsally » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:35 pm

I write a lot of fiction (some published, but I'm still a huge nobody). My tendency to daydream constantly helps me create worlds and characters for my stories. Sometimes I will write a story about a fantasy I have just to get it out of my head because it has been circling around for months.
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