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what do these scores mean?

Postby Bluesnowleopard » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:46 am

AQ = 37

EQ =17

I have a certain amount of empathy for animals in pain, and hate to see that. But as for humans, I care very little for what happens to them. As life seems to be nothing but pain and suffering anyway and the best a human can hope for is the least amount of pain and then to die young, (which I've already missed out on), having any empathy for humans seems a waste of an emotion which I don't have all that much of to begin with.


Not sure why I scored so high on the autism test though, I'm no where near autistic, just old and set in my ways.


I've never been diagnosed with anything. I can't afford to go to see psychiatrists who make 30times per hour what I make. (when I can find any work that I can do at all,... I can only stand to work alone and there are just too many people everywhere these days.).
I seem to fit the schizoid category better than any other, though my sex drive seems to be stronger than most schizoids, which only makes me miserable as I can't stand to be in any kind of relationship and never cared to go to prostitutes. Which, unfortunately is illegal in this country anyway.

I'm not sure what the cause of my "psychological problems" may be... if indeed, I have problems that can best be described "psychologically or psychiatrically". To me I am just the way I am. Other peoples opinions of how I am are of no concern to me. (I think that the entire human race is just a evolutionary mistake anyway, that's bound to be corrected soon enough. (Dinosaurs stalked the globe for 60 million yrs. without doing any damage, but humans have really messed things up in just 10 thousand years since the last ice age.))

The best idea I have of the origin of my "personality problems" is because of a serious brain fever I had when I was 8yrs. old. I nearly died and definitely had my brain fried and suffered from serious neurological problems for years. The spastic twitches and coordination problems eventually went away, but other brain damage may have taken longer to surface, so my best guess is that whatever mental problems I may suffer from has a large neurological basis. My childhood was quite normal and my parents very reasonable and supportive but I always did spend a lot of time alone.

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Postby Watching_the_Wheels » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:45 am

AQ : 28
EQ : 20 but i'll retake it
Never have been diagnosed with anything, but i had social phobia recently, and i suppose i'm schizoid. Nothing else.
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Postby r » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:58 am

aq: 30
that test needs a fifth option. 'don't care' or 'don't know.'
I'm not taking the other one right now.
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Re: what do these scores mean?

Postby kretes » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:52 am

Bluesnowleopard wrote: I've never been diagnosed with anything. I can't afford to go to see psychiatrists who make 30times per hour what I make. (when I can find any work that I can do at all,... I can only stand to work alone and there are just too many people everywhere these days.).


Ha, in Poland we have public health-care psychiatrists, so I actually had a dilemma whether to have the taxpayers pay for a therapy which probably would give out no results. In the end I was right, I lost time, the taxpayers a little money and all I got was the psychiatrist declaring me a loner (no $#%^ :roll: ). Probably that's the disadvantage of free healthcare, but I doubt that a private psychiatrist would do wonders also.
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Postby Joel Overbeck » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:55 am

AQ: 34
EQ: 6

I am not that intelligent to have Aspergers-like autism, although sounds and being stuck in places where there are lots of things distress me, as if my brain's RAM overflooded.

The low score in the EQ test doesn't surprise me at all. When I see someone getting injured or suffering emotionally, sometimes I even have to suppress laughter. I am a heartless bastard.
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Postby sum1 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:26 am

Czyne wrote:27 AQ, 26 EQ
I haven't been formally diagnosed schizoid and was never properly diagnosed with anything aside from clinical depression with psychotic episodes and panic disorder, though it's been well over a year now since I've had a full blown attack, same with any signs of psychosis.
I'd already diagnosed myself long before being admitted to the hospital and the meds were mostly ineffective, so it was pointless. I'll never go back just to have someone confirm what I already know when they're of no assistance.


Bluesnowleopard wrote:I've never been diagnosed with anything. I can't afford to go to see psychiatrists who make 30times per hour what I make.


As to psychiatrists and diagnosis, I had mine for free (or at the
tax payers' expense) but those who weren't offered that
opportunity (e.g. I realise that some countries consider
desert wars more exciting than psychology and diagnostics)
probably did not miss much, because although an experienced
and skilled clinician would be expected to have better diagnostic
accuracy than the average person, the quality of practitioners is
highly variable in my experience, and also, I would expect schizoids,
known for their introspective skills, to be far better than "normal"
people at self-diagnosis if only they've taken some time to review
the literature on the subject.

Indeed, one reason for wanting to collect some data on schizoids'
results on these tests was to help confirm the suspected
mistakenness of my mother and the child neurologist who
diagnosed me with Asperger's Syndrome (AS), a mild autism
spectrum disorder. Those of you who scored high on the AQ test
may wish to look into that, especially if you have obsessions or
compulsions (which I consider myself not to).

According to S. Baron-Cohen, 80% of those with AS, as opposed to
2% of "normals", score over 32 on the AQ test, and their average
on the EQ is 20.

Also of interest is an observation made by S. Wolff, that many
cases that would formerly be diagnosed as schizoid would now be
classified as either AS or schizotypal. Based on my review of these
disorders and their relative differences, I've determined that I'm in
the category that still fits best under the schizoid label.

Links/references:

"Adult Aspergers Assessment" - comments on the AQ and EQ and
how they relate to Asperger's syndrome and high-functioning
autism:
http://www.autismresearchcentre.com/docs/papers/2006_BCetal_AAA.pdf

"Beyond Asperger Syndrome", paper regarding schizoid personality
disorder and its relation to autism spectrum disorders and
schizophrenia:
http://4np.net/~sum1/psyforum/swolff-beyond_as.pdf

Diagnostic criteria for Asperger's syndrome, DSM-IV:
http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-ch07.html
ICD-10 (mentions "schizoid disorder of childhood"):
http://www.mentalhealth.com/icd/p22-ch07.html
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Postby sum1 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:52 am

Joel Overbeck wrote:AQ: 34
EQ: 6

I am not that intelligent to have Aspergers-like autism, although sounds and being stuck in places where there are lots of things distress me, as if my brain's RAM overflooded.

The low score in the EQ test doesn't surprise me at all. When I see someone getting injured or suffering emotionally, sometimes I even have to suppress laughter. I am a heartless bastard.


Back when they talked about 9/11 on the news for days, weeks,
months on end, and also every time people get blown up in
Israel or Baghdad, I find myself thinking "So? Isn't that part of
daily routine? Where are the news?!".
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Postby kretes » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:24 pm

sum1 wrote:Back when they talked about 9/11 on the news for days, weeks, months on end, and also every time people get blown up in Israel or Baghdad, I find myself thinking "So? Isn't that part of daily routine? Where are the news?!".


Exactly, I grow sick of seeing people dieing and suffering all the time in the media. I mean, people die all the time, so what's the point in showing us those who die in a highly spectacular way (eg. explosions, major car crashes, "our troops" in Iraq [well, at least in the early days before people caught up to the idea that soldiers actually do die at war]). I never understood why people watch that $#%^. It's almost as if they like seeing others suffer while being out of harm's way (I know it's not the case but it's one of the aspects of modern society which I truely despise).
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Postby goddamn » Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:26 pm

AQ: 28
EQ: 11

Hm. Actually didn't think my scores would be that low. I haven't been diagnosed as having anything because I've never been to a psychiatrist.
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Postby dogtanian » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:26 pm

kretes wrote: It's almost as if they like seeing others suffer while being out of harm's way (I know it's not the case but it's one of the aspects of modern society which I truely despise).


actually i think it is partially the case.
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