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Postby r » Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:56 pm

Alex Foster wrote:For example, if someone attacked you and you killed them in self defense--would it bother you?
instinctively, I would say no, but who knows. sometimes I am surprised to find myself affected by events I hadn't expected to be affected by.
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Postby Todd » Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:04 pm

I'd wager that it wouldn't affect me, but obviously it's impossible to tell without actually killing someone first and finding out how I react to it mentally. When people die in our neighbourhood or in my extended family it doesn't affect me (although at times I think it's somewhat interesting because it gives me the opportunity to view other people's reactions) and that might be an indication of indifference to death in general (however if one of my parents were to drop dead it'd most likely be a different story). I know I'm indifferent to morality though. I have my own perceptions and ideas of what I do and don't like which is enough.
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Postby Joel Overbeck » Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:24 pm

Alex Foster wrote:For example, if someone attacked you and you killed them in self defense--would it bother you?


Not at all. If that person attacked me, he would have lost the right to be considered a whole human being to me. The only fact that would hold me back would be that laws haven't evolved in my country as fast as the beasts that commit violent crimes, most imported from third world countries. Several cases made the news where homeowners ended up in jail: they killed violent trespassers because at the time of the counterattack they were no longer hitting the spouse or their children or because you have to wait until they shoot you in the face after they blast your door open with a shotgun. If I knew there wouldn't be consequences, I'd do it and I'd smile through it.

I'm familiar with dreams where the whole town pursue me and in which I ended up murdering someone in cold blood, often in the most sickening way imaginable. I'm paranoid towards humankind in general, so I worry about learning self-defense techniques from time to time. One never knows when someone will decide your life worths thirty euros and your socks.

I'm sure it wouldn't disturb my conscience. Sisters and brothers of "friends" died and in some cases I could rationalize that they were asking for it in some way. I'm thinking of the sister of a guy that died driving because she was talking on the phone during a storm and in the worst road of the state, not to mention those that did similar things while drunk.

That's not my last word, though. The intimacy of the act could freak me out and scar me forever, but I'm quite sure I would be able to reason my way out of it. As most of you would-be murderers, I hope I never experience it.
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Postby Third_Eye_Seed » Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:15 am

I think of killing my mother quite frequently, so I don't have an issue with it. I don't know, but I think I'm pretty much amoral.

And if someone attacked and I killed him in self defence, I'm sure it wouldn't bother me.
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Postby Eclipse » Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:53 am

I don't have a problem with murder, provided the murder was premeditated and not carried out extemporaneously. I think if anything illegal is done off instinct, they deserve punishment, but if carried out after thinking with a clear, rational mind and coupled with a ratiocinative basis for the deed, it should go unpunished.

Contemplation>Instinct

As far as me killing a person, I think killing a person requires a ceratin amount of caring about the person(or at least thier actions), but I don't see anyone as that much of a bother to the point where I could do something to get my freedoms revoked because of them.
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