Are all schizoids the same?

I said a little while ago here I feel like my own heavy introspection leads to a great deal of anhedonia.. I'm always so lost inside my head I never pay attention to my surroundings much, just cannot really get absorbed in anything, feeling detached all the time.

"I call this going inside"

i pay attention to everything

im absorbed in nothing even the things i may seem to be absorbed in.

its like being a coach watching the game you know you wont win

Absolutely. Posting to this forum has also helped me to gain valuable insights about my own state by reflecting on my experiences and stuff. Writing has a cathartic effect sometimes.

For me its a little different. i don't need to gain incite about me because i am me. im not that interested in something i already know. i post on these forums to understand "YOU". "YOU is anything thats not "ME".

Joe Dirt wrote:For me its a little different. i don't need to gain incite about me because i am me. im not that interested in something i already know. i post on these forums to understand "YOU". "YOU is anything thats not "ME".

Cool. Sounds like a riddle or something.

Like, why do you want to understand ME? I don't want to understand YOU or anybody else, I just care about being able to better understand MYSELF, because my "falling in love" experience left me reeling and showed me a completely unknown side of me that I MUST know.

Cool. Sounds like a riddle or something.

Like, why do you want to understand ME? I don't want to understand YOU or anybody else, I just care about being able to better understand MYSELF, because my "falling in love" experience left me reeling and showed me a completely unknown side of me that I MUST know.

Hu? What?

Joe Dirt wrote:Hu? What?

Never mind, gotta get some sleep I guess.

jradetzky wrote:

Joe Dirt wrote:For me its a little different. i don't need to gain incite about me because i am me. im not that interested in something i already know. i post on these forums to understand "YOU". "YOU is anything thats not "ME".

Cool. Sounds like a riddle or something.

Like, why do you want to understand ME? I don't want to understand YOU or anybody else, I just care about being able to better understand MYSELF, because my "falling in love" experience left me reeling and showed me a completely unknown side of me that I MUST know.

Joe Dirt, it's curious that you say that you're only interested in learning about others. It sounds like you're bored with yourself, and schizoids are supposedly more introspective than that.

Jradetsky, it sounds like you got very hurt from your "falling in love" experience, and are seeking comfort in the "arms" of anonymous strangers. This too, is a form of socialization and attention-seeking, but I suppose there is something about being alone at the computer and socializing that is easier than trying to tell a real live person your problems.

Bobalobugle, you and other like-minded people post on these forums because you are seeking understanding. While many of the posts are informative and are an exchange of ideas and opinions, many of the posts seem to be just people "LOLing" and sharing inane personal details for the same reasons most people do: to be heard. Not for an exchange of information, but rather to just be heard and perhaps a virtual "pat on the back".

In this way I see the schizoids posters, if they are in fact schizoid, not to be different from most people. There is a deep need for socialization in all human beings; it is instinct.

It is easier to share personal details, which is a form of intimacy, online because it is anonymous. But intimacy means you are still trying to connect to people in some form.

Because the truth is, if you really found writing to be cathartic, and your own thoughts and own mind sufficient, you would simply write in a journal, no? In some form, you want to be heard, perhaps, to be understood.

Ghostgurl, I suspect that the extroverts who claim to be schizoid probably want to be seen as "different" or "special" in some way, as the self-diagnosis would completely contradict their behavior. They would more likely suffer from NPD because of a desire to be "special" or of a different status than others.

I also suspect that most schizoids merely repress the need to socialize out of some fear or discomfort. It's very much like a child becoming disappointed that they didn't have enough money to buy something and then tell themselves, "I didn't want it anyway." And they'll start to believe this, and begin to think their object of desire is really inferior and undesirable. They tell themselves that they don't care, and on some level, they believe it.

Invisible wrote:Jradetzky, it sounds like you got very hurt from your "falling in love" experience, and are seeking comfort in the "arms" of anonymous strangers. This too, is a form of socialization and attention-seeking, but I suppose there is something about being alone at the computer and socializing that is easier than trying to tell a real live person your problems.

Spot on Dr Freud, spot on.

Discussing my broken heart at different forums has proven to be quite therapeutic for me. Apart from the girl herself and a friend who comforted me, I had not discussed the issue with anyone else, so taking it out on the cyberspace was my only option. I could of course go to get counselling, but I know psychiatrists are even more messed up than their patients. No thanx, I'm better off.

Joe Dirt, it's curious that you say that you're only interested in learning about others. It sounds like you're bored with yourself, and schizoids are supposedly more introspective than that.

You assume im schizoid.LOL. Wrong Answer..And Wrong Question.

No, I said i was interested in learning about "YOU". "YOU" is the world outside of my eyes. I am aware that i exist. But where do i exist in relation to "YOU"

Being bored or amused is irrevelent. After every party, my best friend asks me if i had fun. After 20 years he doesnt understand that the question is irrevelent. People were there i enjoy, Watching.

In this way I see the schizoids posters, if they are in fact schizoid, not to be different from most people. There is a deep need for socialization in all human beings; it is instinct.

It is easier to share personal details, which is a form of intimacy, online because it is anonymous. But intimacy means you are still trying to connect to people in some form.

Because the truth is, if you really found writing to be cathartic, and your own thoughts and own mind sufficient, you would simply write in a journal, no? In some form, you want to be heard, perhaps, to be understood.

Thats a negative. Most of my problems come from the fact that i don't have compulsion to be understood. Do i have a total lack of a need to connect..no. but its way lower than most. I don't have secrets. i just don't have a compulsion to "talk" or "connect". If you want to know how many times a day i masturbate. It would be a joy for me to share my experience with you. People assume that since we are quite we have a compulsion to "hide". not true we just don't have the compulsion to "share". But it does feel bit good to be understood(instinct). Even if its 4 people to understand that im not hardwired the same way. 1+1 doesnt always equal 2 in advanced matamatics.


if my journal could respond to me and help in the dialectic method. id write in one. But my Diary is not something i need to learn to deal with on a daily basis. I need to Deal with "YOU".

Joe Dirt wrote:
Thats a negative. Most of my problems come from the fact that i don't have compulsion to be understood. Do i have a total lack of a need to connect..no. but its way lower than most. I don't have secrets. i just don't have a compulsion to "talk" or "connect". If you want to know how many times a day i masturbate. It would be a joy for me to share my experience with you. People assume that since we are quite we have a compulsion to "hide". not true we just don't have the compulsion to "share". But it does feel bit good to be understood(instinct). Even if its 4 people to understand that im not hardwired the same way. 1+1 doesnt always equal 2 in advanced matamatics.

if my journal could respond to me and help in the dialectic method. id write in one. But my Diary is not something i need to learn to deal with on a daily basis. I need to Deal with "YOU".

Yeah. A total lack of need to connect is like a total lack of emotions - impossible. The DSM criteria is written from an observational point of view, which explains the perception of schizoids as cold and socially detached (which I am not neccessarily... it depends on the situation). Parts of my personality go against the schizoid "symptoms" but it's evident that there are people who can relate to the diagnosis in some form, whether or not you consider it a true personality disorder. So that's what I'm here for.