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by Gogol » Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:10 pm
well i'm unable to hold a regular conversation. I cant ask you how your day was - I dont care how it was. Someone in another thread said that these trivial conversations require empathy. I agree with that. with arguments its imo mostly a question of vanity. I dont have that either. Do you guys?
similarly, as someone described in another thread, I require myself to ask certain questions before having a say: has it been mentioned before? Etc. above all I speculate the respons from what I migth say. if I expect a certain respons then the effort is futile. i'm not an exhibitionist. i'm never satisfied with either respons i might get. i dont know how to explain it.
i want a new perspective; usually then it has to be something abstract;something speculative - yes i want to speculate.
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by prot » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:59 am
i want a new perspective; usually then it has to be something abstract;something speculative - yes i want to speculate.
now your going way off on a tangent Niche. i give you an inch you try to take a mile
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by Layered » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:08 am
I enjoy observing human nature at a distance without active involvement. The intriquing thing that I've found about people is that they are so complex, yet we are taken in by their seeming simplicity. I prefer the observer role.
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by anotherworld » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:13 pm
Layered wrote:I enjoy observing human nature at a distance without active involvement. The intriquing thing that I've found about people is that they are so complex, yet we are taken in by their seeming simplicity. I prefer the observer role.
I agree that people are complex; irregardless of their personality and even IQ. From their point of view how they acted/thought is a different thing that the impression it had made.
The way someone acts is not what is being calculated by the observer, but the reality in the actors own world of consciousness. And the latter is impossible to calculate; one can only form an idol of the other person.
SP is just another personality type.
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by prot » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:24 pm
The way someone acts is not what is being calculated by the observer, but the reality in the actors own world of consciousness. And the latter is impossible to calculate; one can only form an idol of the other person.
in short only "informed conjecture"
so why the hell do i need a diagnosis from a doc. it is not possible to understand my precepts?
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by anotherworld » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:43 pm
Not sure what 'recepts' means (english is not my first language)
A diagnosis would just be an outline of your personality. Ussually people who are not familiar with psychology have formed their own, special way of understanding their personality, which is fine, but it often can cause communication failure when in a forum centered on such terms. SP means something very specific to me; if it means something very different to you then it is not helping us communicate
SP is just another personality type.
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by prot » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:25 pm
hu i dont understand what your saying. i dont speak english
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by Layered » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:03 am
anotherworld wrote:Layered wrote:I enjoy observing human nature at a distance without active involvement. The intriquing thing that I've found about people is that they are so complex, yet we are taken in by their seeming simplicity. I prefer the observer role.
I agree that people are complex; irregardless of their personality and even IQ. From their point of view how they acted/thought is a different thing that the impression it had made.
The way someone acts is not what is being calculated by the observer, but the reality in the actors own world of consciousness. And the latter is impossible to calculate; one can only form an idol of the other person.
Every human being is a closed system. So that's all we have to go on is observation. Even when people allow thenselves to be vulnerable and spill out their heart and soul to us, we have to analyze the information through our own thought filters. Communication would be so much simpler if we were all telepathic.
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