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Postby hottyfem » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:19 pm

avoidant doesnt fit me ......maybe ı am too shy ı dont know.........................i hope ıts only shyness and ı havent got a personality disorder:(((((....ı am seeıng a therapıst now ıf ı have a PD ı will now....
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Postby Artificial Lifeform » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:52 pm

No you are wrong. Avoidant does fit you - to some degree.
You seem to crave for social interaction (when it's all theory) but when it comes to reality, you bail out.
I base my assumption on what you write.

You said:
"the thıng ıs that when ı hear a party or other stuff ı want to go ı dress up cool look ın the mırror and ı feel happy..But as soon as ı go ı just want to get the hell out of there...its true that ı am am very shy ıts true that ı always thınk how do ı look am ı stuıped..."

Schizoids don't crave for social relations (most schizoids wants to choose when to be with people, or not be with people at all "see the poll: Do you really want to be alone?").
Schizoids aren't obsessed (or too picky) about their looks coz most schizoids don't give a $#%^ about what others think of them.

Those two core "symptoms" (or whatever you would like to call them) suggests that you dont have SPD.
Of course, only a psychiatrist can tell you what you have. (Don't go and see a psychologist. Most psychologists I've heard about doesnt know $#%^ about SPD. You are most likely gonna lecture them about SPD rather than the other way around)
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Postby Layered » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:37 am

I agree with the consensus that you are probably avoidant. You may feel bored around some people because they either don't measure up to your expectations or your intellect is so much higher that their conversations sound like mindless drivel.
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Postby ryl » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:21 am

I disagree with the consensus that you are avoidant. It sounds to me like you are schizoid and you're forcing yourself to socialize anyway because you want to be normal or at least be able to act normal. I've been there. You need to find a way to make it interesting. Some suggestions:

Find an activity you can do with other people so you're not just standing around making small talk.

Pay attention to what other people talk about and learn as much as you can about those topics. Try to develop an interest in one or more of them.

Try to dominate the group and steer the discussion toward something you're interested in. Watch how the popular people do it and try it yourself.

Read up on body language and social psychology and try to guess what people are thinking or predict what they will do.

Go wild. Say or do things others would be afraid to and see what reactions you get. Adopt a different persona and see how long you can maintain it. When watching a sporting event, root for the other team. Mess with people's heads.
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Postby hottyfem » Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:44 pm

everyday when ı am at school ı wrıte what ı feel.....the fırst day when ı started ı wrote ı feel lonely .....ınsecure....the thought of to be lonely rest of my lıfe....and depressed...the 2nd day ı when ı went to school ı dıdnt want to talk to anyone then when the lesson fınıshed and ı went to another class room i felt lonely shy agaın.....no one talked to me.....ı felt unımportant...besıdes thıs ı want to have an ıntımate relatıonshıp wıth an opposıte sex...ı just want someone ın my lıfe to fıll up the emtyness..YES THESE ARE WHAT I WROTE..thıs looks lıke a personalıty dısorder...we cant say avoıdant we cant say schızoıd.....but ıt looks lıke ı wıll defenetly have these as the tıme passes when ı get older...
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Postby Layered » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:23 pm

ryl wrote:I disagree with the consensus that you are avoidant. It sounds to me like you are schizoid and you're forcing yourself to socialize anyway because you want to be normal or at least be able to act normal. I've been there. You need to find a way to make it interesting. Some suggestions:

Find an activity you can do with other people so you're not just standing around making small talk.

Pay attention to what other people talk about and learn as much as you can about those topics. Try to develop an interest in one or more of them.

Try to dominate the group and steer the discussion toward something you're interested in. Watch how the popular people do it and try it yourself.

Read up on body language and social psychology and try to guess what people are thinking or predict what they will do.

Go wild. Say or do things others would be afraid to and see what reactions you get. Adopt a different persona and see how long you can maintain it. When watching a sporting event, root for the other team. Mess with people's heads.


ryl,
I'm sorry, but I respectfully disagree with the advice you gave. Some of what you are suggesting is merely selfishly manipulating others to make things easier for yourself. This is not the way to make friends and influence people. To quote the old cliche: "People don't care what you know, until they know that you care".
This is just my opinion. You could be right. Feel free to challenge my thinking.
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Postby Acid Crystal » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:55 pm

hottyfem wrote:everyday when ı am at school ı wrıte what ı feel.....the fırst day when ı started ı wrote ı feel lonely .....ınsecure....the thought of to be lonely rest of my lıfe....and depressed...the 2nd day ı when ı went to school ı dıdnt want to talk to anyone then when the lesson fınıshed and ı went to another class room i felt lonely shy agaın.....no one talked to me.....ı felt unımportant...besıdes thıs ı want to have an ıntımate relatıonshıp wıth an opposıte sex...ı just want someone ın my lıfe to fıll up the emtyness..YES THESE ARE WHAT I WROTE..thıs looks lıke a personalıty dısorder...we cant say avoıdant we cant say schızoıd.....but ıt looks lıke ı wıll defenetly have these as the tıme passes when ı get older...


I'll repeat that I don't think you're schizoid, but like someone else said, the label itself isn't so important. From your writing, you are expressing a genuine interest in forming intimate relationships. But when the opportunity arises, you choose not to. On the surface, this doesn't make sense, so I would think the most important thing is asking yourself why. If it's not anxiety or a fear of failure holding you back (which would be indicative of avoidant personality), what is it?

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Postby ryl » Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:01 am

Layered wrote:Some of what you are suggesting is merely selfishly manipulating others to make things easier for yourself.

How so? None of that stuff is easy. Easy and selfish is sitting around saying nothing controversial and expecting other people to entertain you.
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Postby Isme » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:13 am

Messing with people's heads won't get you many friends.

Most people want, like and respect honesty in others; they don't like being around people who deliberately play games or mess with their heads.

The rest of the advice is good; finding common interests and doing stuff with people rather than trying to just hold conversations is a good way to get over problems socialising.

Playing roles just for attention or effect and mindgames is not. You'll lose any hope of friends doing that to people.
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Postby prot » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:01 pm

Most people want, like and respect honesty in others; they don't like being around people who deliberately play games or mess with their heads.


HA YEAH RIGHT. Try be honest for a day. you obviosly havnt studied it. try it for a week and post back. it will make you more enemies. i have been personaly told i was to straight fowad and honest by people who know me.

you have to remember its not what you say but how you feel when you say it.
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