The stranger exception

Just remember to be very careful. This kind of club can be extremely expensive and there are some rip-off places. Drinks are definitely not free. I suggest you scout it out carefully before agreeing to anything.

Thanks for the tip. But I would try once maybe to see what it's like, and it's definately not something I would make a habit out of. And I don't really drink all that much any way so how expensive could it be? Would the girls get mad if I didn't tip them to see there hoots and cooch? If I did end up going I could just see myself sitting in the corner observing from a distance.

aloofiam wrote: And I don't really drink all that much any way so how expensive could it be? Would the girls get mad if I didn't tip them to see there hoots and cooch? If I did end up going I could just see myself sitting in the corner observing from a distance.

Around here it could be 1000 $ for a bottle of Dom Perignon. I don't know where you live (I'm in Europe) so I don't know how safe the clubs are at your location.

Would the girls get mad? Well, I've been told that in the US strippers have to pay to be in a club. They live off the tips so if you're the only customer they might, but I really don't know.

Anyway, the point of my original post was certainly not to encourage others to follow my way, just wondered if anyone else had similar exceptions, as you indeed had.

Life sucks so one escapes into a dream world.

life doesnt suck 4 a schizoid. they suck 4 depressed people. you feel sorry 4 me... please. the grass isnt greener on the other side.

people who are delusional escape from reality. try being rational in a iratonal world. you would be labled as argumentive, anti social, and crazy.

American idol....delusional

sitcoms.....delsional


i like the history chanell...science....non fiction books.

HungryJoe wrote:Dreaming is important to me the way drugs are important to a drug addict. The dreams are where I find joy in life. It's really the same craving. Life sucks so one escapes into a dream world. Without my dreams I'd probably be an alcoholic or a drug addict too.

Dreams, though, are not unrelated to your life. They present your position in symbolic ways.

I like dreams as well. Ussually mine are shaped as endless writing sessions though, which is creating a serious problem with getting neccessary rest from sleep and i do not like it at all...

Apart from that i sometimes see nightmares, although not most of the time.

Sometimes i have really huge dreams, which present - i think- my entire life, and ussually are nightmarish. Some of them are really grandiose, and would like to make a story out of them in the future

Nemoralis wrote:It's amazing how certain posts made by Schizoids, whether here or elsewhere, just strike a bell with you and you think, "that sounds exactly like me!" In this case I can sort of relate, but take everything I say with a grain of salt since I have not been professionally diagnosed (although that might change soon).

i just read your post and thought "it sounds exactly like me!" however, i also haven't a diagnosis as yet (i have been referred to a local PD support group though, which i attend). everything you said about your parents and friends rang totally true.

I can see where a strip club might hold appeal for a schizoid. It offers the illusion of real life without the social complications. The more I learn about Schizoids the more I am fascinated by their complex manuevers to touch upon life without actually taking hold of it. I have to wonder if Schizoids aren't primarily motivated by an obsession for control.
I've never enjoyed clubs or bars, myself, because there are just too many needy people there. I enjoy church because I can spend 1-2 hours in fellowship that is formal and amiable, then go on my way. We might be seeking the same thing in different environments.

I have to wonder if Schizoids aren't primarily motivated by an obsession for control.

Id have to say that your right. Control is a real big deal 4 me.

Almost everything we do is about control. You may not see it or misinterprit our humble appearence.

its not control in the normal sense, like have control over an object. the way i think, what i learn, where i go what i do, its all about chess. we flip both sides of the coin. we have to see whats on the other side. i know i may sound full of $#%^. but i have not been suprised by an outcome in over 8 years.

without control, well i dont know what or who i would be without it.

Control is always an illusion. The most we can hope for is probable outcomes based on risk management.

Layered wrote:I can see where a strip club might hold appeal for a schizoid. It offers the illusion of real life without the social complications. The more I learn about Schizoids the more I am fascinated by their complex manuevers to touch upon life without actually taking hold of it. I have to wonder if Schizoids aren't primarily motivated by an obsession for control.

I think it is a lot about control. Around others, I tend to feel like I'm just being pushed around or manipulated into behaving a certain way and engaging in certain activities, neither of which I can get any enjoyment from. My response is usually to insist that I do things my way, and if they don't like it, they can leave me alone and not invite me anymore.

Once again, I think it all fits together with the other differences I've noticed with myself and people here who I can relate to. Schizoids don't seem to experience reality in the same way as "normals" - in particular, there is a difficulty in being externally driven. All pleasure seems to come from within. And so, to the degree that schizoids cannot control their environment in the same way as it would occur in their own mind (where we have complete control), reality tends to fall short. That's my current explanation anyway.

As far as a strip club goes, I guess I don't see the point. I can only speak for myself, but I'm not interested in (and even moderately disgusted by) sex, or anything that suggests sex, unless the experience can occur entirely within my own mind - an application of what I was saying above. And the "club" part of it just means lots of people around to deal with, which is precisely what I try to avoid when I get some free time.

AC

Control is always an illusion. The most we can hope for is probable outcomes based on risk management.

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