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Re: Communication vague and fragmented?

Postby katana » Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:43 pm

Idk. I do know that before doing any work on stuff I have had the tendency to come across vague because I felt uncomfortable divulging any personal details about what I was actually doing with most things. Privacy to a pathological extent. Some people reacted by trying to suggest my speech was "vague and impressionistic" and therefore thought I was histrionic, when actually I was extremely unhappy about having to tell people anything. It did make me seem vague though because I had to appear to respond without actually giving an answer. lol

If I stop talking its often because of cognitive dissonance and anger I can't process through the conversation without being hostile, even if e.g. in relation to how I'm responding, i.e. attempting and then just refusing on some level half way through. edit: actually that hardly ever happens, its only tended to happen because I was dissociating at the time.
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Re: Communication vague and fragmented?

Postby Ashlar » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:52 pm

I find a lot of peoples communication filled with implicit assumptions that don't actually follow from their premises. I don't have enough (or any) face-to-face interaction with other schizoid persons. At some point yesterday someone said that I don't often "explain things." I wasn't sure what he meant, and his example was something where the conversation had died because I didn't care one way or the other about it..

So I'm not sure on this. I know I do talk from a different perspective than a lot of people, but I'm generally considered a fairly good communicator. I also notice some of the posters on this forum have a weird stilted written dialogue style, but it's hard to credit that to any particular type of disorder. I do notice certain themes in the language in each of the different PD forums, but it's hard to sort out of that's just cultural, situational, or the result of something specific.
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Re: Communication vague and fragmented?

Postby pit » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:01 pm

katana wrote:Idk. I do know that before doing any work on stuff I have had the tendency to come across vague because I felt uncomfortable divulging any personal details about what I was actually doing with most things. Privacy to a pathological extent. Some people reacted by trying to suggest my speech was "vague and impressionistic" and therefore thought I was histrionic, when actually I was extremely unhappy about having to tell people anything. It did make me seem vague though because I had to appear to respond without actually giving an answer. lol

If I stop talking its often because of cognitive dissonance and anger I can't process through the conversation without being hostile, even if e.g. in relation to how I'm responding, i.e. attempting and then just refusing on some level half way through. edit: actually that hardly ever happens, its only tended to happen because I was dissociating at the time.


If somebody called my speech "vague and impressionistic", I'd say that's all well and good as it puts me in the league of the finest impressionistic painters of our time.
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Re: Communication vague and fragmented?

Postby under ice » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:39 pm

Instead of commenting the matter at hand I often say something general that conveys an attitude but leaves my opinion unsaid. Like a proverb or a motto. Vague enough?
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Re: Communication vague and fragmented?

Postby Roquentin » Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:22 pm

Person A: That tree looks like an oak tree.
Me: I don't know [pause], I seen oak trees look different [longer pause]. When I was young [trail off].


No wonder i never get any jobs. thats exactly the way i speak in interviews. Like you asserted the thought is not transferred to the vocal cords effectively. Great at thinking but poor at conveying what i think into language
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Re: Communication vague and fragmented?

Postby moi même » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:59 pm

i sometimes even stammer a lot... annoying!!
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Re: Communication vague and fragmented?

Postby moi même » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:06 pm

let me tell you a funny story:

when i was a little girl, at school we had to write a card for our fathers on the father's day. Mine said "my dad is the least ugly of all dads"

When i gave the card to him and he read it he started laughing really loud: "I'm the least ugly?", "shouldn't it be i'm the most beautiful?".

I felt so embarrassed!! even so i tried to explain to him that all the other dads looked ugly to me so he was the least ugly of all.
Still didn't make any sense to him and he kept laughing...

This is, more or less, my kind of speech still today. I know i'm saying the right thing but that's never the way we should put things.

ahahahaha I do understand my father now but still, my speech sometimes is something like this and people look at me in a funny way and i feel very very awkward: "what do you don't understand? am i a strange creature?"
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Re: Communication vague and fragmented?

Postby Ashlar » Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:21 pm

If you can get the tone right, you can make jokes nons will pretend to get by saying things with two meanings.
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Re: Communication vague and fragmented?

Postby mgshadows » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:20 am

My speech used to be pretty jumbled, fragmented, and sometimes vague. I realized after a while that people who weren't understanding me weren't just stupid. I think I've come a long way in correcting my speech habits, but I still have a lot of issues with jumbling my sentences.
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Re: Communication vague and fragmented?

Postby ZonedOut » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:28 am

If I'm only superficially involved in the conversation, I tend to talk at a normal pace and my communication can be almost incomprehensible because of my vague and fragmented speech. In such case, I don't even bother to clarify myself or correct what I just have spoken out. As a result, most people just give up and leave me alone in such case.

However, if the conversation turns into something I'm interested in, my pace gets much slower, but the communication easy to follow if people are willing to take the time to listen. The point is that I'm a rather slow person. Cognitively, I'm very sluggish. So I can only make myself comprehensible if others are willing to take the time for it. I need to talk slow with long silences in between. If people try to force me to accelerate, I just give up the conversation or I become incomprehensible.
Dx - Schizoid Personality Disorder // Attention Deficit Disorder
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