The threads on this forum

Why do people even give a sh1t about this?

EmpathySucks wrote:Why do people even give a sh1t about this?

Because it's interesting. Speaking purely for myself.

EmpathySucks wrote:Why do people even give a sh1t about this?

Nothing better to do today

The group got a little intoxicated by your goofy loftiness and was willing to play for a minute, which is what anything under 500 posts probably seems like to them.

You might consider the accommodation made for the variety of challenging (to put it mildly) emotional and intellectual styles wandering in and out of this forum - including yours. It may sound corny - awwwwww -.but that's social literacy, and guess what, schizos? that's empathy!

Here is a sample of what craigslist psych forum has to offer (In the title, not imbedded in the post):

Take your gay $#%^ to the m4m forum
Freakasauras Rex does Voodoo
And you eat doodoo
Somebody ought to break your legs
Neutrino25 give free blowjobs
Just for you big boy
drugsuck, go crawl back into your scumbag…

The expression “ f**ktard” = >50 times.

It's extremely naive to think people aren't capable of judging your level of emotional fluency from your writing style - whether they use CAPS or s.

roscid wrote:When has our country preached peace? You cannot hold a person to claims that he never made.

Dalloway can surely answer this without my help, but I thought he was using a metaphor. I thought he was saying that whilst the members on this forum state that they are loners and that they are different from the general populace (and content to be so), the way that they behave on this forum is exactly like how the general populace behaves.

Is it hypocritical to express disdain for one of your own characteristics, or to preach solitude whilst huddled together? Maybe solitude doesn't require an absolute commitment, just as you can side with peace yet still argue with a sibling.

And whilst there may be an element of denial here, that again is not unique to this forum. Denial is common to a lot of (all?) personality disorders, and to the population at large.

While I understand the wanting of an intellectual discussion I don't think this is the way to go about achieving it. You seem to find the discussion on this forum lacking in quality content due to the lack of intelligence of posters. If we take this as the sole reason, trying to convince unintelligent people that they are unintelligent and that they should be striving to post more intelligent conversation is probably not going to work. They are content - if not happy - with how the forum is at it's current state or they would not be posting here. It's like going to a bar and demanding everybody stop drinking alcohol and instead start drinking water. People are content with the status quo on this forum, or they would not be here in the first place. If you want quality intelligent discussion you should start your own threads and those that also share this desire will post there while those that don't can ignore it.

Personally I post here because I am quite bored and it's a way to pass the time and communicate with individuals who will be able to relate on topics and provide insight that I may have overlooked.

Also I think that people are getting a little too aggressive. While Jadeite does not deliver his ideas in the most considerate tone, he shouldn't be attacked just because his viewpoint is different to the norm. After all, we would despise "norms" who did the same to us.

I'm bored tonight. I'll go ahead and answer this to the best of my ability.

Jadeite wrote:The discussion in the threads also mimics the structure of ordinary conversation. The language is largely colloquial or modern technical terms. Contractions are used to mimic speech. There is a great effort towards achieving pathos.

It is an internet forum, like any other. We're just going to say what we feel like saying, and we don't usually bother trying to purposely make ourselves sound intelligent. Like I said in one of my earlier posts, it's the idea behind what you're saying and the content, not how you say it.

Many responses are terse and constrained, suggesting a sort of posturing of the American cowboy or construction worker for his peers.

Many of us have fairly little experience socializing, and therefore we're not good at expressing ourselves. Many schizoids suffer from alogia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alogia), which is having difficulty elaborating on what they're saying and giving very short answers. This seems to come out when we're talking online too. We're not trying to impress anyone, we just tend to be very concise and would much rather say things in a short and sweet way.

It will be noted the level of ludicrousness there is in social posturing on a forum for loners existing anonymously and at great distances from each other. The suggestion is that the tendency comes from something primal and genetic, as in the unintelligent.

This forum seems to be simple boredom relief more than anything. Many of us don't suffer all that much and have trouble with giving and receiving sympathy anyways, which defeats the purpose of a support forum. We need to spend hours and hours alone, and writing on a forum is a good way to kill time. While it is pretty ironic to have a forum full of loners who hate socializing, it helps us find something to do. And writing on a forum doesn't drain you like socializing does.

We're bad at communicating and have trouble saying in several paragraphs what could be said in a sentence or two.

Well, we have already established that because there is little-to-no correlation between schizoids and intelligence, and because most of the world is unintelligent, most schizoids therefore are unintelligent. The one paradox is that a preference for isolation is and will be uniformly that of the modern intelligent man. It may even be said that this is the greatest gap in and signifier of intelligence between an unintelligent and an intelligent man. Why then does the schizoid, despite having made this great leap, continue to be unintelligent?

Someone answered this already, that that idea that highly intelligent people choose isolation is possibly a myth. And even if is true, a schizoid of average intelligence would choose isolation for different reasons than a genius would. Schizoids withdraw to protect themselves - they fear being hurt by others, we have trouble giving or receiving love, people tire us out very quickly, people can be unpredictable or cruel and seem dangerous, that sort of thing. A genius may choose to withdraw because their brain works on a different level than most other people, and their ways of thinking and relating to the world are so unconventional and original that other people have difficulty understanding them. A genius like this might want relationships and feel lonely, but operates on a much higher intellectual level than everyone else around them, and chooses to withdraw because no one understands them. Or I'd imagine anyway, I haven't researched very much about extremely intelligent people.

Nevertheless I have been struck several times to see a thoughtfully-worded, deep, intelligent post, just begging for response, and thus a mutual gain of minute shades of understanding of life, attacked as if by posse with flaming brands. Of course, those of you who recall my last thread, will remember that the situation was somewhat similar, but I actually have in mind one by another user, where, while the post in question was dense and somewhat verbose, the poster was called out of appalled illiteracy a lunatic, to which a few others resounded something such 'a shame, he might have had something to say if he were more concise', as if meaningful discussion can ever be had through concision.

I assume that you're talking about the emoticon thread, since that's what everyone else says it is. Actually, people were more attacking the idea that the poster of that thread was making. And, unfortunately, people can sometimes be insulting when they hear an idea that they don't like, even though Dalloway was posing an interesting question and trying to start a discussion about why we're doing something that most of us probably hadn't thought twice about. I think it was more about the fact that we love using emoticons for no good reason than the fact that we thought that his posts were too long. And then a very passive-aggressive fight ensued.

*Gives Dalloway a medal for winning some of Jadeite's approval, which is no easy task*

I would be hard-pressed to distinguish this forum from any other on the Internet. As a schizoid, why exactly is it that you have a dislike for other people? Is it not because of their crude, predictable behavior? And yet it is the crudest, most predictable threads, and the invitations to the basest, most self-indulgent discussion that accrue the most responses and views.

We dislike other people for a large number of reasons, which can vary from person to person. Their conformity and rudeness are just a small part of it. I mentioned some reasons above, but we usually dislike people because we're highly introverted and they exhaust us, relationships can be painful, we lack the ability to be intimate with other people and form close bonds, people can be overly emotional and don't think rationally, some of us were abused or bullied and developed a dislike for other people, we see people doing stupid and self-indulgent things for no apparent good reason (like going clubbing and drinking until they throw up, that kind of thing), we don't get pleasure from socializing... There are many reasons that we dislike other people, but these are probably the most common reasons I've heard.

Human beings tend to be amused by sex, funny stories, asking for advice, that sort of superficial entertainment, and apparently we're no different. They're not the most intelligent things, but they're fun.

You do have a point that there aren't that many good threads on here asking why we are the way we are, how we came to be this way, why we are different than other people, or thought-provoking subjects like that.

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roscid wrote:When has our country preached peace? You cannot hold a person to claims that he never made.

Dalloway can surely answer this without my help, but I thought he was using a metaphor. I thought he was saying that whilst the members on this forum state that they are loners and that they are different from the general populace (and content to be so), the way that they behave on this forum is exactly like how the general populace behaves.

Is it hypocritical to express disdain for one of your own characteristics, or to preach solitude whilst huddled together? Maybe solitude doesn't require an absolute commitment, just as you can side with peace yet still argue with a sibling.

And whilst there may be an element of denial here, that again is not unique to this forum. Denial is common to a lot of (all?) personality disorders, and to the population at large.

I know. I was extending the metaphor.

EtherealStarlight wrote:You do have a point that there aren't that many good threads on here asking why we are the way we are, how we came to be this way, why we are different than other people, or thought-provoking subjects like that.

There have been a few good threads on these topics, but I think most of us already know the answers to these questions (though it never hurts to look deeper). I think the general consensus is that bad parents *cough mothers cough* are the usual reasons for someone developing SPD, though genetics can do it too. It makes more sense actually to talk about the trivial stuff, because A) there are more trivial topics than important topics and B) the trivial things are where we usually differ the most, which makes them more interesting to talk about. If we only ever talked about the big things, the forum would have a lot less threads to post on and they would all be us just agreeing on almost everything. What would be the point of that?

Moral of the story, if you have an interesting/important topic/question you would like to discuss, make a thread for it. But if you don't have something important/trivial, you can and probably should still post anything that you are interested in discussing.

Oh crud. Sorry roscid. (I'm not a trekkie and I thought Vulcans were the aggro warmongering dudes so I thought you were taking the metaphor literally. )