The threads on this forum

Jadeite wrote: 'a shame, he might have had something to say if he were more concise', as if meaningful discussion can ever be had through concision.

It is hard to be have an intellectual conversation with people who get bored reading long posts without being concise. I also think that you make a false assumption that we all believe ourselves to be more intelligent than the average man. We are, on average, probably about the same intelligence as anyone else.

Correct me if I am wrong, but are you talking about the thread about emoticons, with Dolloway?

Jadeite wrote:As a schizoid, why exactly is it that you have a dislike for other people?

I don't inherently dislike people. I am indifferent to them. That said, I dislike when people stop me to talk, because I'd rather keep doing what I was doing, or because they are disrupting my thought processes.

Jadeite wrote:

Mrfeathers wrote:Can you not see your hypocrisy? Or do you realise that you too are afflicted by the same symptoms of 'unintelligence'; which I believe I resolved you had confused with something else in your last thread.

The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary defines intelligence as the faculty of understanding and understanding as a quality admitting of degree; spec. a superior understanding. Understanding being the chief quality that separates man from beast, it is thus by degrees of superiority denoted as higher intelligence, to the point where it appears to be removed altogether from the beast. In other words the superior man is the most intelligent, since he contains in himself the the greater of the man and the lesser of the beast. Intelligence is what defines the man; instinct, a quality which is minimal in the superior man, the beast.

And do you see how this thread is not an act of intelligence?

Jadeite wrote:The capability to understand things beyond an instinctive level is hardly a superficial distinction.

True understanding must permeate the mind until it becomes instinctive.

Jadeite wrote:I understand humanity quite well.

Is this the Dunning–Kruger effect people speak of?

I'm not sure we know an accurate way of measuring intelligence. Acting intelligent doesn't equal being intelligent. Everyone has the potential to act intelligent.

Jadeite wrote:The discussion in the threads also mimics the structure of ordinary conversation.

That's because It is conversation.

Jadeite wrote:The one paradox is that a preference for isolation is and will be uniformly that of the modern intelligent man.

Even if Intelligence leads to a preference for isolation, a preference for isolation doesn't equal intelligence.

Jadeite wrote:I would be hard-pressed to distinguish this forum from any other on the Internet.

Obviously. Only the themes change between forums, not the way communicating works.

Jadeite wrote:As a schizoid, why exactly is it that you have a dislike for other people?

I wasn't aware that misanthropy was in the diagnostic criteria.

Whatever concerns or confusions you seem to have, you are not formulating them correctly. Your words sound highly non-sensical and irrationally close minded, probably due to your fixation with intelligence. I actually struggled to take you seriously.

Anepsios wrote:Whatever concerns or confusions you seem to have, you are not formulating them correctly. Your words sound highly non-sensical and irrationally close minded, probably due to your fixation with intelligence. I actually struggled to take you seriously.

It is my opinion that the OP believes themselves to understand our disorder quite well. In reality, his/her understanding appears to be crude and rudimentary. Kind of a cookie cutter, black-or-white way of looking at Schizoid Personality Disorder.

Also worth noting, going to the Wikipedia page for Misanthropy, it states in the first page that it is often confused with asociality. A mistake our enlightened OP appears to have made.

cobra cat wrote:

Jadeite wrote: 'a shame, he might have had something to say if he were more concise', as if meaningful discussion can ever be had through concision.

It is hard to be have an intellectual conversation with people who get bored reading long posts without being concise. I also think that you make a false assumption that we all believe ourselves to be more intelligent than the average man. We are, on average, probably about the same intelligence as anyone else.

Correct me if I am wrong, but are you talking about the thread about emoticons, with Dolloway?

Jadeite wrote:As a schizoid, why exactly is it that you have a dislike for other people?

I don't inherently dislike people. I am indifferent to them. That said, I dislike when people stop me to talk, because I'd rather keep doing what I was doing, or because they are disrupting my thought processes.

I did not make that assumption. As I said there is little-to-no correlation between the condition known as Schizoid Personality Disorder and intelligence.

I do not remember what the thread was.

It is often true that was we get older we develop more and more a general disdain for people.

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Mrfeathers wrote:

Jadeite wrote:

Mrfeathers wrote:Can you not see your hypocrisy? Or do you realise that you too are afflicted by the same symptoms of 'unintelligence'; which I believe I resolved you had confused with something else in your last thread.

The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary defines intelligence as the faculty of understanding and understanding as a quality admitting of degree; spec. a superior understanding. Understanding being the chief quality that separates man from beast, it is thus by degrees of superiority denoted as higher intelligence, to the point where it appears to be removed altogether from the beast. In other words the superior man is the most intelligent, since he contains in himself the the greater of the man and the lesser of the beast. Intelligence is what defines the man; instinct, a quality which is minimal in the superior man, the beast.

And do you see how this thread is not an act of intelligence?

No. Tell me.

Jadeite wrote:

cobra cat wrote:

Jadeite wrote: 'a shame, he might have had something to say if he were more concise', as if meaningful discussion can ever be had through concision.

It is hard to be have an intellectual conversation with people who get bored reading long posts without being concise. I also think that you make a false assumption that we all believe ourselves to be more intelligent than the average man. We are, on average, probably about the same intelligence as anyone else.

Correct me if I am wrong, but are you talking about the thread about emoticons, with Dolloway?

Jadeite wrote:As a schizoid, why exactly is it that you have a dislike for other people?

I don't inherently dislike people. I am indifferent to them. That said, I dislike when people stop me to talk, because I'd rather keep doing what I was doing, or because they are disrupting my thought processes.

I did not make that assumption. As I said there is little-to-no correlation between the condition known as Schizoid Personality Disorder and intelligence.

I do not remember what the thread was.

It is often true that was we get older we develop more and more a general disdain for people.

I'm sorry, but the purpose of this thread is lost on me. What is the message/question you are trying to get across? Be concise, as much as I'm sure that will kill you.

Jadeite wrote:I think you are on to something there. Perhaps this is the sole reason for some schizoid's inability to experience pleasure. They are trapped with a burden of intelligence, being isolation, but not gifted of the other faculties of intelligence, which would under normal circumstances have been their reason for seeking isolation, being greater pleasure. Hence they are alone but do not know why they are alone.

I'm sure it could apply to some, but I'm not sure what the norm is. I was definitely highly intelligent as a child (intellectually speaking), which led me to feel isolated because I couldn't relate or connect to any of my peers. I'm sure this is a big piece of the puzzle to explain why I'm socially lacking now... Intellectually gifted children aren't offered any rewards or special considerations where I live (this is taboo to even suggest), there are no advanced classes, skipping grades, teachers don't grade based on intellectual intelligence, etc. Instead there was the constant nagging of "you need to play with the other children" and eventually being sent to therapy when I refused to conform to the norm. All of this of course led to even more isolation and psychological problems, which eventually caused a gradual decline in cognitive abilities and emotive intelligence, due to all of these stressors (at least I believe this cascade of #######4 is a major part of what lead to my current condition, though I could be wrong, I know there are many possible factors).

I've never considered myself superior though, I've always felt extremely inferior because I've kept failing to adapt to societies ideal. It's too hard to define "superiority" anyway, as there's no definition of the ideal human being (there are too many types of intelligence, and highly subjective opinions as to which are most important).

Regardless of what you believe to be true, referring to yourself as superior, of supremely high intelligence, practically declaring yourself superhuman, will never serve any purpouse other stroking your own ego, while making others assume you must be of lesser intelligence (if not, why the need to declare this). So I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt with this serious answer, and assume that particular misstep is the reason we all seem to be playing "gang up on the narcissist" now.

Anepsios wrote:I'm not sure we know an accurate way of measuring intelligence. Acting intelligent doesn't equal being intelligent. Everyone has the potential to act intelligent.

Jadeite wrote:The discussion in the threads also mimics the structure of ordinary conversation.

That's because It is conversation.

Jadeite wrote:The one paradox is that a preference for isolation is and will be uniformly that of the modern intelligent man.

Even if Intelligence leads to a preference for isolation, a preference for isolation doesn't equal intelligence.

Jadeite wrote:I would be hard-pressed to distinguish this forum from any other on the Internet.

Obviously. Only the themes change between forums, not the way communicating works.

Jadeite wrote:As a schizoid, why exactly is it that you have a dislike for other people?

I wasn't aware that misanthropy was in the diagnostic criteria.

Whatever concerns or confusions you seem to have, you are not formulating them correctly. Your words sound highly non-sensical and irrationally close minded, probably due to your fixation with intelligence. I actually struggled to take you seriously.

I am not going to contest anything that you have said other than the assertion that this, being what we are doing now, is conversation, since conversation is exclusively oral. Contractions in writing were something that was occasionally done in children's books and intimate letters in the past, but that eventually caught on in common use when the children rebelled in the 1970's or so. They have an extremely emotional and familiar component to them, since they are incorrect affectations, being simply written expressions of certain unstressed forms of spoken words. That you choose to use them shows that you like to communicate with others in an emotional and familiar manner; I do not. That you choose to speak specifically of me rather than my ideas shows that you are more interested in people than ideas; I am not.

Jadeite wrote: That you choose to use them shows that you like to communicate with others in an emotional and familiar manner; I do not. That you choose to speak specifically of me rather than my ideas shows that you are more interested in people than ideas; I am not.

or it means he/she has adapted to society.