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Re: Should We Change?

Postby cobra cat » Sat May 25, 2013 6:14 pm

Demigodz wrote:On a completely different note Rob K. I have made it my mission to see one of your posts before you delete it.


I quoted one of his posts :D you're welcome

I would enjoy some of the more pleasurable parts of being normal, but theres also a lot of pain. Too much for my tastes.

Also, anagram made a good point. Is the pain caused unnecessarily or suffered unnecessarily? I believe it is suffered unnecessarily, especially if someone knows about your disorder but still gets hurt by it. Although, it is possible to be too brash. I believe you should at least try to accommodate people. But if someone who knows about your disorder still gets hurt by it, that is their own fault for not accepting it, and not accepting you.
lia wrote:On another forum the response probably would have been, "No, no, don't try to kill yourself." Here it's, "That method of attempting suicide wouldn't work." :)


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Re: Should We Change?

Postby Placid » Sat May 25, 2013 6:35 pm

cobra cat wrote:I would enjoy some of the more pleasurable parts of being normal, but theres also a lot of pain. Too much for my tastes.


It's only pain when it runs against the grain of what how you think things 'should be.'
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Re: Should We Change?

Postby cobra cat » Sat May 25, 2013 6:53 pm

Placid wrote:
cobra cat wrote:I would enjoy some of the more pleasurable parts of being normal, but theres also a lot of pain. Too much for my tastes.


It's only pain when it runs against the grain of what how you think things 'should be.'


Seems to happen to most normal people
lia wrote:On another forum the response probably would have been, "No, no, don't try to kill yourself." Here it's, "That method of attempting suicide wouldn't work." :)


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Re: Should We Change?

Postby Placid » Sat May 25, 2013 6:59 pm

cobra cat wrote:
Placid wrote:It's only pain when it runs against the grain of what how you think things 'should be.'


Seems to happen to most normal people


It happens to everyone, but recognizing that is the origin changes everything.
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Re: Should We Change?

Postby archigallus » Sat May 25, 2013 7:44 pm

I read the word "Should" and think about ethics and philosophy.
I read the word "We" and think about abstractions and the nature of self.
I read the word "Change" and think about the physics of space-time and patterns.
I think a lot of other things...

I stop thinking and throws a banana peel at you.

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Re: Should We Change?

Postby Eliza555 » Sat May 25, 2013 8:26 pm

Change is only necessary to survive. If one requires another to survive then ya have to do whatever it takes. Eliza
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Re: Should We Change?

Postby roscid » Sun May 26, 2013 12:46 am

Placid wrote:Do you think SPD is a renunciation of the social realm, or a natural temperament?


I think it is the former born of the latter. Once I realized that I did not derive the same enjoyment from social activities as nons due to my very introverted and solitary nature, I accepted that I did not have to be social and thereby renounced the entire exercise.

The costs outweighed the benefits, so I went on a budget. :wink:

Re: "Should we change" -- In my own case it is not something that I would seriously consider. I don't want to be dependent on other people for my own happiness.
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Re: Should We Change?

Postby Demigodz » Sun May 26, 2013 1:19 am

Placid wrote:
cobra cat wrote:I would enjoy some of the more pleasurable parts of being normal, but theres also a lot of pain. Too much for my tastes.


It's only pain when it runs against the grain of what how you think things 'should be.'

Think he/she means that the enjoyable parts for being normal do have their bad side. To experience happiness one must also be ready to experience sadness. To experience love is to experience heartbreak/hate....etc.

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archigallus wrote:I read the word "Should" and think about ethics and philosophy.
I read the word "We" and think about abstractions and the nature of self.
I read the word "Change" and think about the physics of space-time and patterns.
I think a lot of other things...

Well thank now I can't get those thoughts out of my head
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Re: Should We Change?

Postby Fallen_Angel73 » Sun May 26, 2013 1:27 am

Demigodz wrote:Think he/she means that the enjoyable parts for being normal do have their bad side. To experience happiness one must also be ready to experience sadness. To experience love is to experience heartbreak/hate....etc.

Even so, I think Placid is right. Sadness alone can be experienced in many different ways (compare nostalgia and despair, for example — both of which can be elicited by the same external conditions). It's pretty much like the difference between pain experienced during martial arts training and pain experienced as you try to sleep. The former is supposed to happen and has a purpose, the latter is not and does not.

If you process pain experienced during martial arts training the same way you would process unexplained pain that keeps you from sleeping at night, you will never complete your training. And if by any chance you need that training, then you will inevitably be miserable (regardless if you give up on the training or not).
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Re: Should We Change?

Postby Ashlar » Sun May 26, 2013 1:36 am

roscid wrote:The costs outweighed the benefits, so I went on a budget. :wink:


I like that little statement very much.
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