Does your family know you have SPD?

Isik wrote:Usually when you bring up some sort of condition or illness you might be suffering from, it is a way to explain why you're unable to do the things normal (/healthy) individuals have no trouble doing. So it's either a way to get some attention, which is doubtful, or a preemptive way to "apologize" for not being able to function properly. Why would you even mention you're "schizoid" to anyone. That's just another word for "introverted" and that hardly qualifies as anything serious, let alone an actual illness, so not bringing it up is a good idea if you do not want to sound like a whiny angsty kiddult. That is harsh but that's how most people see it.

Schizoid is not another word for "introverted", not even close. Search it if you're interested because I've talked too much about it before and you are probably half-trolling anyway.

Isik wrote:Usually when you bring up some sort of condition or illness you might be suffering from, it is a way to explain why you're unable to do the things normal (/healthy) individuals have no trouble doing.

depending on the context, that might be the case. and there's nothing wrong with that. if you have a leg injury, you won't be able to run a marathon. that's not an excuse, that's a fact. same goes for mental issues.

So it's either a way to get some attention, which is doubtful, or a preemptive way to "apologize" for not being able to function properly.

it's an explanation for a noticable circumstance.

Why would you even mention you're "schizoid" to anyone. That's just another word for "introverted" and that hardly qualifies as anything serious, let alone an actual illness, so not bringing it up is a good idea if you do not want to sound like a whiny angsty kiddult. That is harsh but that's how most people see it

while i doubt that, most people probably don't think in a way that is required to understand those things.
what's your goal here? is spd any kind of factor in your life?

ps.: all of this just in case you're serious. if not, nevermind.

I was just diagnosed today, but my family does not know anything. After 46 years, you'd think they would know I have a mental illness, as I have no friends and never had a relationship, but they seem oblivious. If I mentioned the term schizoid personality disorder, they would, as most people, have no clue what that even is.

Feleanoctis wrote:

Isik wrote:So it's either a way to get some attention, which is doubtful, or a preemptive way to "apologize" for not being able to function properly.

it's an explanation for a noticable circumstance.

This, and also maybe I just happen to be quite open with my immediate family. I guess it's not unheard of even for schizoids to be close with at least someone and share things just because.

Isik wrote:Usually when you bring up some sort of condition or illness you might be suffering from, it is a way to explain why you're unable to do the things normal (/healthy) individuals have no trouble doing. So it's either a way to get some attention, which is doubtful, or a preemptive way to "apologize" for not being able to function properly. Why would you even mention you're "schizoid" to anyone. That's just another word for "introverted" and that hardly qualifies as anything serious, let alone an actual illness, so not bringing it up is a good idea if you do not want to sound like a whiny angsty kiddult. That is harsh but that's how most people see it.

I wouldn't tell anyone as an excuse, but I could see how it could potentially be useful as an explanation when people try to bond with me and take it personally when I start avoiding them.

Being schizoid is not the same as being introverted. Introverts just need time off and then they're able to attend to their relationships. I'm not interested in having relationships. I'm just not wired that way.

I don't mention to anyone that I'm schizoid precisely because I know that I'll get the same reaction you just demonstrated. I don't think it's "something serious" or an "illness" or an excuse for anything but since the entire universe has decided that the way I am is bad and something to apologise for, it might be helpful to be able to offer that explanation when people take how I am personally and end up feeling hurt. Unfortunately, I can't explain it without people like yourself assuming I'm either a serial killer, a pedophile or just looking for excuses for being an asshole.

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Isik wrote:Usually when you bring up some sort of condition or illness you might be suffering from, it is a way to explain why you're unable to do the things normal (/healthy) individuals have no trouble doing. So it's either a way to get some attention, which is doubtful, or a preemptive way to "apologize" for not being able to function properly. Why would you even mention you're "schizoid" to anyone. That's just another word for "introverted" and that hardly qualifies as anything serious, let alone an actual illness, so not bringing it up is a good idea if you do not want to sound like a whiny angsty kiddult. That is harsh but that's how most people see it.

I wouldn't tell anyone as an excuse, but I could see how it could potentially be useful as an explanation when people try to bond with me and take it personally when I start avoiding them.

Being schizoid is not the same as being introverted. Introverts just need time off and then they're able to attend to their relationships. I'm not interested in having relationships. I'm just not wired that way.

I don't mention to anyone that I'm schizoid precisely because I know that I'll get the same reaction you just demonstrated. I don't think it's "something serious" or an "illness" or an excuse for anything but since the entire universe has decided that the way I am is bad and something to apologise for, it might be helpful to be able to offer that explanation when people take how I am personally and end up feeling hurt. Unfortunately, I can't explain it without people like yourself assuming I'm either a serial killer, a pedophile or just looking for excuses for being an asshole.

Feleanoctis wrote:

Isik wrote:Usually when you bring up some sort of condition or illness you might be suffering from, it is a way to explain why you're unable to do the things normal (/healthy) individuals have no trouble doing.

depending on the context, that might be the case. and there's nothing wrong with that. if you have a leg injury, you won't be able to run a marathon. that's not an excuse, that's a fact. same goes for mental issues.

There's nothing you can do when you have a leg injury. You either deal with it till it gets better or you seek help if time and resting ain't enough. You can have a lot of willpower and incentive to run a marathon but it won't do crap if your body IS the issue, even if your own life were at stake.
A rational human being with at least moderate intelligence - as I assume we all are here - cannot claim whatever they suffer from psychologically is irreparablly beyond their control because this is just plain WRONG. An individual who suffers from severe metal retardation is not responsible, neither is one who completely lost contact with reality (excluding those schizo wannabe on the internet).
This is why most "disorders" or bs illnesses in the dsm can be basically summed up by words such as "lazy", "needy", "high maintenance", "timid" etc, or just "weird". Bottom line is they are personality traits and nothing more, if you can't overcome them you've only got yourself to blame.

This is all so trivial. You don't like being around people? Nobody does. And yet they suck it up and live normal lives.

Living a normal life is easy, most people do it. If you can't you're either unable to do it or don't wanna do it. The former is excluded in our case, so what's left?
Can't work? More like don't want to. Without people to provide for you (family, taxpayers w/e) you would not have this luxury.
Same goes for not wanting to be around ppl, what if you had to for survival? Would you survive in very "basic" living conditions, in a third world country? No you wouldnt because then you'd have to fight your whims and your urges to isolate yourself from your family and whoever is necessary in a community.
What im getting at is that not having any safety net is what truly shows in the end whether you suffer from something serious or not. You can't adapt if you're blind, in a wheelchair, retarded, totally mad and whatnot.

since everything you say is based on some weird assumption that people with mental issues, also schizoids, are whiners who cover their ears and cry "i can't help it" at every turn, and not, you know, actual people with different lifes and views, there's nothing to be said anymore. that's a pretty big hurdle to overcome.

i'm kinda curious about what you're doing here, since you don't have even a basic understanding of these things, nor do you even want to have. forum where people get all emotional and worked up are far easier to troll.

Isik wrote:There's nothing you can do when you have a leg injury. You either deal with it till it gets better or you seek help if time and resting ain't enough. You can have a lot of willpower and incentive to run a marathon but it won't do crap if your body IS the issue, even if your own life were at stake.
A rational human being with at least moderate intelligence - as I assume we all are here - cannot claim whatever they suffer from psychologically is irreparablly beyond their control because this is just plain WRONG. An individual who suffers from severe metal retardation is not responsible, neither is one who completely lost contact with reality (excluding those schizo wannabe on the internet).
This is why most "disorders" or bs illnesses in the dsm can be basically summed up by words such as "lazy", "needy", "high maintenance", "timid" etc, or just "weird". Bottom line is they are personality traits and nothing more, if you can't overcome them you've only got yourself to blame.

This is all so trivial. You don't like being around people? Nobody does. And yet they suck it up and live normal lives.

Living a normal life is easy, most people do it. If you can't you're either unable to do it or don't wanna do it. The former is excluded in our case, so what's left?
Can't work? More like don't want to. Without people to provide for you (family, taxpayers w/e) you would not have this luxury.
Same goes for not wanting to be around ppl, what if you had to for survival? Would you survive in very "basic" living conditions, in a third world country? No you wouldnt because then you'd have to fight your whims and your urges to isolate yourself from your family and whoever is necessary in a community.
What im getting at is that not having any safety net is what truly shows in the end whether you suffer from something serious or not. You can't adapt if you're blind, in a wheelchair, retarded, totally mad and whatnot.

You know,I used to think like that too, and still do to an extent. So I just want to let you know that most everything you believe about this is absolutely incorrect.

I've done the whole "just get over it" bit and forced myself to do things like a "normal" person, in order to stop being homeless and also feed myself. I've also worked with mentally disabled people (remember this because I'll be referring to it shortly).

Now, you may be right that without a safety net, someone might just be able to cope with things they otherwise couldn't do. I did that a lot actually, and whilst it did help me to expand my limits slightly, it also seriously worsened my schizoid traits and I got into a lot of bad employment and housing situations.

In the job I had, it was frequent to see that people who were just over the edge of the "disabled" line had the hardest lives. If you're fully and blatantly disabled you can actually have a good life, because people recognise you're disabled and you're taken care of a great deal. But if you're slightly disabled and no one recognises that, then your life can become very turbulent indeed (my employment and housing history is a classic example). So it's precisely because of this "it's just a personality thing, get over it you lazy, whiny brat" crap from others that people who are just slightly disabled can have a very hard time. Depression is common for these people.

I don't think you quite understand how the mind and body work. Although I do agree that SPD is not irreparable and not beyond control - but don't try and twist this into making it sound easy to do, because it's not. You are obviously not schizoid, and you have no interest in learning about what it entails and why it can be such a problem, but you might want to make even a slight effort if you're going to be posting here. But a lot of what you just said was very dumb, so I'm leaning towards a 80-20 troll-genuine possibility here.

Isik wrote:This is why most "disorders" or bs illnesses in the dsm can be basically summed up by words such as "lazy", "needy", "high maintenance", "timid" etc, or just "weird". Bottom line is they are personality traits and nothing more, if you can't overcome them you've only got yourself to blame.

This is all so trivial. You don't like being around people? Nobody does. And yet they suck it up and live normal lives.

Living a normal life is easy, most people do it. If you can't you're either unable to do it or don't wanna do it. The former is excluded in our case, so what's left?

Again, being schizoid isn't a disability. It's who I am. Do you run around telling gay and lesbian people that they could live a "normal" life if they just sucked it up?

wickerwoman wrote: Do you run around telling gay and lesbian people that they could live a "normal" life if they just sucked it up?

You must live in a very tolerant country.
In my country there are plenty of people who'd say that to a gay person.

Isik wrote:This is why most "disorders" or bs illnesses in the dsm can be basically summed up by words such as "lazy", "needy", "high maintenance", "timid" etc, or just "weird". Bottom line is they are personality traits and nothing more, if you can't overcome them you've only got yourself to blame.

This is wrong. People tend to think that brain is some miraculous organ, that works differently that others do, and you "fix it" just by thinking. You can't. It's like asking a Parkinsons person to get better just but wanting it - it's your brain and it's neurological, but you can't control it the way you'd like to think you can.