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Re: Not Sure How to Move Forward

Postby shock_the_monkey » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:58 pm

Taffer24 wrote:I don't think you quite understand the situation I was/am in. If you can't understand that there are sometimes strings/responsibility attached to $. If you've never had people in your life who love you and want the best for you, want you to make something of yourself with their financial support. If you've never been so addicted to something that you crave it even when you know it won't make you happy in the long term. If you can't see the difference between squandering your own earned wealth vs being handed vast sums of $ that you know you've done nothing to deserve, while the people who love you believe that you do deserve it, because you'll do the right thing with it.

Well I think there is a lot you don't understand for lack of experience, and I hope for your sake that it remains that way. Respectfully, I disagree with your advice, it is not helpful, and perhaps you should stick to moderating. Remorse is a perfectly healthy and useful emotion, without it we become cold and detached, living a falsely care free existence, pretending we are happy. I am not needlessly punishing myself with guilt, I am merely recognizing it's value in identifying where I have gone wrong, to avoid making the same mistakes in the future. Perhaps this was a mistake, I need an intelligent and well trained therapist to work through this, not a forum moderator playing armchair psychologist.

... i never said you'd buy into my reasoning. that you don't doesn't surprise me. but being derisory about it is certainly a little ungrateful of the effort that i've expended on your behalf.

on a more positive note, i do have some chocolate biscuits left.
something knocked me out' the trees
now i'm on my knees
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

there is one thing you must be sure of
i can't take any more
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

don't like it but i guess i'm learning

... shock the monkey to life
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Re: Not Sure How to Move Forward

Postby Taffer24 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:07 pm

shock_the_monkey wrote:
Taffer24 wrote:I don't think you quite understand the situation I was/am in. If you can't understand that there are sometimes strings/responsibility attached to $. If you've never had people in your life who love you and want the best for you, want you to make something of yourself with their financial support. If you've never been so addicted to something that you crave it even when you know it won't make you happy in the long term. If you can't see the difference between squandering your own earned wealth vs being handed vast sums of $ that you know you've done nothing to deserve, while the people who love you believe that you do deserve it, because you'll do the right thing with it.

Well I think there is a lot you don't understand for lack of experience, and I hope for your sake that it remains that way. Respectfully, I disagree with your advice, it is not helpful, and perhaps you should stick to moderating. Remorse is a perfectly healthy and useful emotion, without it we become cold and detached, living a falsely care free existence, pretending we are happy. I am not needlessly punishing myself with guilt, I am merely recognizing it's value in identifying where I have gone wrong, to avoid making the same mistakes in the future. Perhaps this was a mistake, I need an intelligent and well trained therapist to work through this, not a forum moderator playing armchair psychologist.

... i never said you'd buy into my reasoning. that you don't doesn't surprise me. but being derisory about it is certainly a little ungrateful of the effort that i've expended on your behalf.

on a more positive note, i do have some chocolate biscuits left.


Acts in an intentionally unhelpful way, and complains when the effort of doing so isn't appreciated. I'd offer you a consolation cookie, but if you already have biscuits :D
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Re: Not Sure How to Move Forward

Postby shock_the_monkey » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:33 pm

Taffer24 wrote:
shock_the_monkey wrote:
Taffer24 wrote:I don't think you quite understand the situation I was/am in. If you can't understand that there are sometimes strings/responsibility attached to $. If you've never had people in your life who love you and want the best for you, want you to make something of yourself with their financial support. If you've never been so addicted to something that you crave it even when you know it won't make you happy in the long term. If you can't see the difference between squandering your own earned wealth vs being handed vast sums of $ that you know you've done nothing to deserve, while the people who love you believe that you do deserve it, because you'll do the right thing with it.

Well I think there is a lot you don't understand for lack of experience, and I hope for your sake that it remains that way. Respectfully, I disagree with your advice, it is not helpful, and perhaps you should stick to moderating. Remorse is a perfectly healthy and useful emotion, without it we become cold and detached, living a falsely care free existence, pretending we are happy. I am not needlessly punishing myself with guilt, I am merely recognizing it's value in identifying where I have gone wrong, to avoid making the same mistakes in the future. Perhaps this was a mistake, I need an intelligent and well trained therapist to work through this, not a forum moderator playing armchair psychologist.

... i never said you'd buy into my reasoning. that you don't doesn't surprise me. but being derisory about it is certainly a little ungrateful of the effort that i've expended on your behalf.

on a more positive note, i do have some chocolate biscuits left.


Acts in an intentionally unhelpful way, and complains when the effort of doing so isn't appreciated. I'd offer you a consolation cookie, but if you already have biscuits :D

... let me be very clear about this: i tried my level best to put as positive a spin on your circumstances as i possibly could. if you want to reject that, go figure it out yourself. it's your life. the forgiveness you seek is in your hands, not mine. and i don't perform for insults. one more from you and i'll seek to have this thread locked.
something knocked me out' the trees
now i'm on my knees
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

there is one thing you must be sure of
i can't take any more
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

don't like it but i guess i'm learning

... shock the monkey to life
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Re: Not Sure How to Move Forward

Postby Taffer24 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:35 pm

shock_the_monkey wrote:... let me be very clear about this: i tried my level best to put as positive a spin on your circumstances as i possibly could. if you want to reject that, go figure it out yourself. it's your life. the forgiveness you seek is in your hands, not mine. and i don't perform for insults. one more from you and i'll seek to have this thread locked.


My circumstances are not positive. I can't possibly believe that you really thought minimizing this situation would be helpful in any way. I don't need forgiveness, I need actionable steps to work toward improving this situation.

Really though I've tried my level best not to offend you here, I can only imagine how it must feel for you when someone doesn't accept your opinion for the infinite wisdom it really is. My deepest apologies for any disrespect...
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Re: Not Sure How to Move Forward

Postby sprock » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:17 am

Indeed. Shock responded in good faith. If the OP does not wish for the advice of a moderator on a free forum but from a professional, that is where he should be spending his money, which is my advice.
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