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Postby roshop » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:49 am

Hi.
I m a 27 yo boy from EU, I have a gf for years. Yesterday I did something very bad. I was chatting on a chat app when I saw a person who had a photo of a female but had gender status 'male'. I wrote him and asked why...
He said he is a gay, I asked whether he is a ladyboy. He said yes. He sent me two pics of his face. He looked exactly like a girl (not just long hair). Then asked me to send a photo, I took one, without tshirt, but only my face was on it, hopefully it was not that "porn-like". I asked whether he wears a bra, he said no. I asked whether he wears women's underwear and he replied yes. Then I said lol show me....
He said why, me "just", then he "maybe later", me "now" and he said he is shy... I said sorry I was just joking; I did not want to insult you. He said OK. Then we talked about his unfinished studies and why he left his job (5-10 sentences).
I am afraid:
- I cheated on my gf with a boy (she allowed me to chat, but...)
- what if the boy was underage? I did something against the law. He said something that he is 21 and also said something that he studied business ... but what if my memories are fake/wrong?
I am totally lethargic... Please help.
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Re: My sin

Postby sprock » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:55 pm

You haven't got any reason to believe he is underage and you say your girlfriend lets you talk in such a way to other people. Plus you only exchanged a non-pornographic photo. Apart from the fact it sounds like you got bit pushy, you have nothing to worry about. Chill. :)
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Re: My sin

Postby roshop » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:23 am

I dont know why I believe he was underage but somehow I am afraid. If he was, it was not indecent exposure because all the photos were of faces, okay mine was without tshirt but afaik that does not count. Or? And wasnt my question problematic?
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Re: My sin

Postby Snaga » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:56 am

You got a little flirty with a ladyboy, really not as big a deal as you're worrying it is. Especially if your g/f knows you chat.
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Re: My sin

Postby Quoth » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:10 am

After a title like that, this was rather anticlimactic.

roshop wrote:- I cheated on my gf with a boy (she allowed me to chat, but...)
Well unless you omitted the part where you went round to stick things in the boy, I'd say you're grand.
- what if the boy was underage? I did something against the law. He said something that he is 21 and also said something that he studied business ...
None of the images sound pornographic, and generally mens rea is required for a conviction.
but what if my memories are fake/wrong?
...err...if you put a pair of underpants on your head and stick two pencils up your nose you have a good foundation to claim dimished capacity.

Seriously, if you have managed to get through the last however many decades without molesting/grooming children, chances are you didn't do it this time. If you had some kind of delusional disorder combined with a sexual proclivity for minors, you might have something to worry about. As it is, you're just overthinking it.
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Re: My sin

Postby roshop » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:58 pm

Quoth wrote:After a title like that, this was rather anticlimactic.

roshop wrote:- I cheated on my gf with a boy (she allowed me to chat, but...)
Well unless you omitted the part where you went round to stick things in the boy, I'd say you're grand.
- what if the boy was underage? I did something against the law. He said something that he is 21 and also said something that he studied business ...
None of the images sound pornographic, and generally mens rea is required for a conviction.
but what if my memories are fake/wrong?
...err...if you put a pair of underpants on your head and stick two pencils up your nose you have a good foundation to claim dimished capacity.

Seriously, if you have managed to get through the last however many decades without molesting/grooming children, chances are you didn't do it this time. If you had some kind of delusional disorder combined with a sexual proclivity for minors, you might have something to worry about. As it is, you're just overthinking it.


No, I did not omit any part. Did you mean this was not cheating?

The images he sent were of his face. No nudity. Mine was a photo of my face, I did not wear Tshirt but only the part above shoulders was visible. This is not pornographic at all right?

I am very much afraid of cheating my gf AND harming minors. Here, the age of consent is 14 but I am totally afraid of just talking with people under 18 (18 is adulthood). I do not want to give it 1% chance that I do something illegal. Afaik, I have no delusional disorder, but everyone has fake memories.
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Re: My sin

Postby Quoth » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:44 pm

roshop wrote:No, I did not omit any part. Did you mean this was not cheating?
It was not cheating

The images he sent were of his face. No nudity. Mine was a photo of my face, I did not wear Tshirt but only the part above shoulders was visible. This is not pornographic at all right?
This wouldn't count as porn

I am very much afraid of cheating my gf AND harming minors. Here, the age of consent is 14 but I am totally afraid of just talking with people under 18 (18 is adulthood). I do not want to give it 1% chance that I do something illegal. Afaik, I have no delusional disorder, but everyone has fake memories.
in many (western) countries the age of consent differs from that required to produce a pornographic image. Irrespective if the age of consent, you do not want to be swapping nude pics with anyone below 18 years of age. Given no pornographic content was involved here you are fine.
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Re: My sin

Postby roshop » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:32 am

I would like to emphasize that I did/do/will not want to get in any contact with minors. But you are right.

Age above 18 only counts for illegal pornography in this situation and we are sure his photos were not that (even if he was not an adult, here are my doubts and 'what if's). Age of consent counts for my photo as it can be automatically taken as indecent exposure in case of somebody below age of consent. Hopefully this is not the case as I said mine was one without tshirt and showing the area above shoulders. Age of consent is also important because it is illegal to talk about sexual topics with ones below it (this is not the exact description). I hope my 'pushing' does not count as that and he was an adult. (I looked up these facts in the law itself, age of consent is 14 here, adulthood is 18)
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Re: My sin

Postby sprock » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:12 am

Then you have nothing to worry about! :)
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