Why do people rape?

epiphany55 wrote:I think there's something underneath that power and domination - those two things are superficial and driven by something deeper.

Well, power and domination will have roots, where else would it branch from?

Why do they rape! The same reason the Serial murder kills! They don't want to pay for sex! They get it for free!

They have no human concept of being human or feeling! All people are objects!

They are lawless and take what they want! They do not follow human law! Nor do they seem to think they are ever going to get caught! They have a contempt for humans! And they claim they are the only victims in this world!

Generally, one does not need to understand them! They are not human, but they are very dangerous!

And it's my belief they have no problem raping someone underage! I don't know!

The rapist is a sick and dangerous animal! He's not a mentally ill person! He's not a person; he's a monster! Like a wolf or shark! No human conscious! They feed when they are hungry! Natural predators! they do not think anything is wrong; for them; its exciting!

For them; an act of control and torture against society!

My father was a rapist! and possibly a potential serial rapist! so, I got to see them first hand! and other family members were child molesters and I was raped by them!

They are an anti social lot; you would have to hang with them to understand! everything; their spirit world is backward! anti matter! everything is the opposite of human!

Most play act the role of human identity! in reality, they have none! they are more animal then anything else!

OMNICELL wrote:Generally, one does not need to understand them! They are not human, but they are very dangerous!

It is important that we understand what makes people do bad things and treat it as a mental condition because once we better understand what creates the problem we can look for meaningful solutions.

I'm sorry you experienced what you did, but dismissing certain human beings as unfeeling monsters will not reduce instances of rape and ignores the roots of what lead them to commit such horrible acts (perhaps they were sexually abused themselves).

Unfortunately these people are human (or we are all a species of animal, whichever way you want to look at it) and as long as they fit that biological category, we have to accept that some human brains are going to create unwanted impulses. It's our job to find out what causes these impulses so we can minimise its effect, whether the solution is social or medical.

Epiphany, sign me TF up. No, but on a serious note, it sure is important that we find the cause.

I did a few months prison for selling marijuana a couple of decades ago. I'm not against cannabis and think it should be legal but I've had nothing to do with it since I got ill. I spent 2 of those months locked up with a man who had raped both men and women. It wasn't till after prison that I found out as this man was from my home town.

He told me that at the age of 12 he had been sent into social care due to violent and aggressive behaviour and that whilst in care he had been raped by a man. He said that once the worst thing that could happen, had happened, there was not much he cared about after that. Thinking about it, in retrospect, that was not the worst thing that happened. Going from abused to abuser was the worst thing that happened and that was choice I think.

I suppose then for some it's a violent reaction to having once been abused and the loss of power they felt from that experience. Also, if you look at high profile sex offenders you'll see, like I saw with him, that many barely recognise it as being wrong, or so it seems. I would say there's some mental illness with it, plus being raised in an agressive environment together with personal choice. Many other reasons no doubt. we also live in a time where it's considered abnormal for males not to excessively deplete their sexual energies. As I mentioned in another thread, imo and many others, empty gonads can lead to fixations on sex. Of course not all men proceed to rape but as mentioned earlier in this thread, pressurising women could be going down that road. Most men I think are overly concerned with the sexual aspect of women, g/f's and wives and although they may like their personalities etc, essentially the objectification rules their roost.

At the time I was not really aware of any reasons for certain conversations we had or little play fights he tried to have but years later, as my memory is something that's always been very very good, all the reasons for his questions and actions became clear. He was testing me to see if he could abuse me in any way. Whether I would fight back and what I might do in certain situations. He was unable to have real friendships and could only view people for what he could get out of them. he was the "Daddy" in the prison but that said, one on one, I was physically stronger than him and would've won in a straight fight so that probably saved me from actual harm. He was known for using weapons and not giving up is why he was the "Daddy" and not due to size etc as he wasn't that big. Think Begbie.

After I got out, and eventually when he did, he turned up at a friend of mine's house (G) one day. We were getting stoned as we/I did back then and, most unfortunately, G spoke of a man we all knew who had been raped by 2 other men. I think he was actually mistaken altogether and that it was just a rumour. Anyway cos this man we all knew, I'll call him H, obviously had not been to the police this got my cell mate thinking. Within 2 months he had raped H because of the rumour my friend G had spoke of. Something my friend G now has to live with. It was after that that it all came out and others let it be known that he had raped them also.

Most oddly, or not I don't know, even now this is all public knowledge this rapist has no trouble getting girlfriends. And for sure they knew and still do. He's never even been tried for rape.

Great info, Jargo. I think some abused people have difficulty telling right and wrong apart, it's much like how a select few abused children grow to believe that violence equates to love. that's another topic and I've already gone over it before, but thought I'd just mention it again as it's interesting and seems to effect developmental growth. thanks for sharing your experience with us.

I think that's why they often get away with it so much as they can look folk squarely in the eye and declare their innocence of actual wrongdoing. Not wrongdoing as we perceive it but as they perceive it. Another thing I noticed is their ability to ingratiate themselves with you. They'll find things you like, want or need and then provide them so that you like them, feel indebted to them and to get you in their confidence. Be slow to make friends.

Very nicely worded, I agree with you.

He told me that at the age of 12 he had been sent into social care due to violent and aggressive behaviour and that whilst in care he had been raped by a man. He said that once the worst thing that could happen, had happened, there was not much he cared about after that. Thinking about it, in retrospect, that was not the worst thing that happened. Going from abused to abuser was the worst thing that happened and that was choice I think.

you dont think this could end up being my gfs case do you?

-- Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:16 pm --

in the case of gfs moms bf, the way she had described it, it seemed more like an attempt at seduction. she said he had been know to give massages to women and things would kinda go from there (only it would wind up being consensual with others). he just seems so hard to read. on one hand some of the things she told me he said and did were rather disturbing and off putting, but then he never tried to get her to do anything. its just so strange to me.

What that she becomes an abuser following abuse? I really don't know man though I guess the majority don't. My father told me that his wife (my step mum of sorts, nice lady but we're not close) was abused by her father. When my dad and her got together she was 20 and he late 30's. Cutting it a bit fine with the age difference I think but essentially OK. Not sure I could but if she was emotionally mature then cool i suppose.

Thing is is that supposedly when young girls are abused by older men sometimes they associate their "proper" sexual behaviour with older men too. So is my step mother reliving her abuse, or an association from it, when she sleeps with my Dad? He's a pretty cool bloke who I would call handsome so I can't rule out that she was just being sensible by choosing him. I imagine talk is good to make sure it doesn't lead to bad habits but man I'm no expert here. My pop's wifey was very young and so less able to distinguish right from wrong. Hopefully your g/f is no longer in touching range of this man?

It's a messed up place is society. Every mate I know, including myself, has had some kind of wrong sexual encounter. Seems like you're lucky if it's mild.

I tell you what happened to me as it's a little funny ad just to lighten the load but not to make light of your problem..

Me, my bro and next door mate C were swinging on the rope across the river when an old geeza walks past. He said something strange so we told him to F off you old wan**r. He replied that we wouldn't even know what wan**ng was- which was actually correct for me at least. So he took us into the fields behind some trees and showed us. Mild really I suppose but definitely wrong. Anyway as we got back to the swing C goes eh you dirty old man, give us all your money or we'll tell on ya! And he did. Went and got some icecreams. I used to see the local young girls going into his shed on the allotment...the mind boggles unfortunately.

I don't know what you should do. I had a g/f who was abused twice and at 18 I had no idea what to say. Talk is good I suppose.