Is this abuse?

A boy following other boys into the bathroom to look at their penises.

Exposing his genitals to the other boys.

Getting an erection while sleeping with his 1 year old cousin.

Helping a younger boy get dressed, pulling his pants up, and his hand brushes against the younger boy's butt.

A pedophile touching a child in a non-sexual way (like holding the child's hand)?

322 wrote:A boy following other boys into the bathroom to look at their penises.

Exposing his genitals to the other boys.

Getting an erection while sleeping with his 1 year old cousin.

Helping a younger boy get dressed, pulling his pants up, and his hand brushes against the younger boy's butt.

A pedophile touching a child in a non-sexual way (like holding the child's hand)?

Only the 2nd one is obvious abuse that would awaken something sexual in them, the rest of it would be unknown or they would have no idea that you were getting something kinky out of it.

KevinG31 wrote: Only the 2nd one is obvious abuse that would awaken something sexual in them, the rest of it would be unknown or they would have no idea that you were getting something kinky out of it.

What does the other children knowing what is happening have to do with anything? That's like saying someone could grope a child and as long as the child did not know what was happening it was not abuse.

322 wrote:

KevinG31 wrote: Only the 2nd one is obvious abuse that would awaken something sexual in them, the rest of it would be unknown or they would have no idea that you were getting something kinky out of it.

What does the other children knowing what is happening have to do with anything? That's like saying someone could grope a child and as long as the child did not know what was happening it was not abuse.

It has everything to do with it. When a mother hugs her young son and rubs her chest against his body he doesn't know what breasts are or that adult men get aroused over contact with them so he doesn't look upon that physical contact as anything special, that's not molestation. As long as the child doesn't feel that their body is being violated and you aren't forcing them to experience sexual feelings at an early age no one ever felt "molested" because an adult held their hand, the whole concept of that is absurd. That child has no clue if you are enjoying holding their hand or if you are getting turned on as long as you keep your arousal to yourself and don't try to stimulate their body in a way that they are too young for.

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322 wrote:A boy following other boys into the bathroom to look at their penises.

Exposing his genitals to the other boys.

Getting an erection while sleeping with his 1 year old cousin.

Helping a younger boy get dressed, pulling his pants up, and his hand brushes against the younger boy's butt.

A pedophile touching a child in a non-sexual way (like holding the child's hand)?

I think that it can be difficult to say what is and is not abuse. Sometimes it is completely obvious but other times not so easy to determine. My thoughts on what constitutes abuse are along the lines of someone exploiting power they have over another individual. I think it is worth you thinking about that wrt to the things you mention above. What do you think?

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They maybe of the same age but not everyone has same upbringing, different psychological responses.

That's why some people can handle trauma better than others, irrespective of age.

i think the behaviour is unhealthy, if not abuse or not. its just unhealthy for kids to look at each others genitals all the time. sexual development is natural and should be kept that way. you dont know how the act may affect others.

it affected me badly n i wish someone had stopped me then.

today they are just seeing the genitals, it could escalate to other sexual acts, which maybe unhealthy(for the mind) at this age.

i dont think it's abuse, but just unhealthy. what maybe abuse for one, maybe tolerable for another fellow.