by SoLost923 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:07 am
Hey Angelina4, thanks for your reply. I hope you or anyone reading this allows me to clarify myself and thoroughly and completely read what I have to say before responding back if decided to do so.This is going to be long.
I already established that this did happened. I clearly admitted that.I am not trying to rationalize or justify anything as an adult that I did as an adult or even as a teenager. I am someone that did something very bad to someone I love at one time in my life which was when I was a kid. I am simply giving facts or at least trying to do my best to remember them as it happened so long ago. I am trying to do my best to word things as properly as I can in hopes that I make the situation as clear as possible. That does not mean I am trying to manipulate or convince you or anyone else that I believe it is OK that this happened. It is NOT OK.I do NOT think that I am a perfect man nor would I want anyone to see me that way to be quite honest because it is impossible for anyone to live up to. I do however try my best to be a good man.I have nieces and nephews and even godchildren and love them very much and would do anything within my power to protect them from anything especially things like this and only hope and pray that nothing like this is going on between any of them to have to deal with it as an adult like my sister and I are now.
When I myself was a kid, I was attracted to girls of my same age, even had little girlfriends in elementary school which I made clear in my first post.I'm sure most parents would even find this hard to believe.Other than a kiss, I definitely did not do anything sexual with them or even attempt it. Everyone in my family is aware of this. I do remember my little girlfriend when we were in 2nd grade one time pushing me on the ground and getting on top of me and rubbing her groin against mine. Maybe something was going on in her life at the time to make her do that to me. Moving forward, I was NOT attracted to little kids as I grew into a teenager (7th grade and up). I was not attracted to little kids as an adult in my 20's and I am still not attracted to little kids as a man in my 30's. It bothers me to even have to write that out.We don't know each other on this forum and are anonymous and have no reason to lie to anyone I would think.
I am in fact a victim of things that happened in my childhood but they have had no significant affect on me as an adult which I felt was no reason to mention although I will if you would like to know. It is possible and maybe likely they may have had an effect on this specific situation at the age I was. That does NOT mean that I am trying to make myself out to be the victim for what I did to my sister but that also doesn't mean that I am not disturbed,hurting and confused by it and because I feel these things does NOT mean that I am expecting or seeking out any sympathy either or that my sister will just all of a sudden be OK with everything.
As far as my age at the time, I'm not sure what you have a problem with especially since I'm not very clear about it myself. I could only give an approximate time frame and ages but I was definitely not 14 or 15 and so far based on conversation with my sister, we seem to be on the same page with this.I'm sure she would have stressed otherwise.I only can remember touching under our clothing. I've always understood "Incest"to be actual penetration and intercourse with a relative which I honestly don't remember happening and pretty confident it didn't. Also, I am sure this only happened a few times during one summer vacation in which I would visit from another state through out my childhood to visit my dad,grandmother and other family which would also show that this wasn't a constant occurring thing through months of time and this definitely stopped there and never did this again with her or anyone after. Let me be clear. I DO NOT think that makes the situation any better.I also never said that she "Initiated" anything just because of her age. I agree with you that "It doesn't mean squat" because I am now an adult and able to know that. I was just trying to say that at the time I thought it was safe as she seemed to be aware and allowed it to happen. This is me trying to put myself back into my frame of mind at that age which is hard to do.This is NOT me speaking as an adult. Also, I agree as an adult that she wasn't aware of what she was doing but I disagree with you about her not being able to have learned her behavior elsewhere. It is definitely possible especially when you consider her mom bringing different men around.You wouldn't know this any more than me but is something I think should be looked into.Of course I could be wrong and nonetheless still doesn't change what I've done.
Just so it's known, I have talked to psychologist before. Once after high school and in my mid 20's. I was given many resources to do research on including books on molestation and abuse. I've done extensive research on the subject including incest and siblings exploring sexual curiosity with each other and even parenting books to try to learn as to why these things may be over looked. I was told that I must take responsibility for what I did but not let the guilt ruin my adult life for what I did as a child and this is what they were trying to help me deal with. In college I was even majoring in psychology to try to understand the human mind and help others or at least myself.That is not what I currently do for a living as I had other interests. The only thing that I hadn't done or had the courage to do which I really wanted to do, was bring this up with my sister which is now what is happening because she has more courage than I and brought it up to me.
I don't know how much more clear I can be.What may come off as me "Trying to rationalize" is just me trying to come to terms with all this as I'm sure you can imagine my mind and emotions are all over the place right now.. This is also why I'm hear sharing my story. Maybe someone else can gain something from it. I'm sure there are more people here in my sisters shoes but maybe someone here is in mine as well or maybe both. Also for parents to be aware of these things possibly going on within there children.
You can give me a hard time. I know this is a very delicate subject and bringing this to light,all kinds of emotions will be flying around and accusations might be made or my character as an adult may be questioned but no matter how bad I feel or made to feel, I can not and will not admit to a lifestyle that I do not live. A grown man actively having sexual involvement with little kids is in my opinion the worst scum ever.If what I did at that age and time makes me now at my age a pedophile or child molester, then I must move on to the next step. Whatever the case, as far as I can see now, I only have 4 options:
1.Turn myself in to police and confess that I did these things when I was 12.I don't know how that would play out legally if anything at all.
2. Go into complete denial and/or get way from all my family and go into a deep depression,do drugs,drink and let the guilt eat me alive for the rest of my life.
3.Just kill myself.
4. Admit to what I've done,talk about this and get help and talk to my sister and hope we can help each other get through this.
I'm sure there are people that would think that the former three are my only actual options but I'm trying to work with option 4 for now.
-- Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:16 pm --
Hi sylvievere,
Thanks for your words. Please have a look at my last post which happens to appear right after yours. I think I was typing it out as you left your post.
I am glad you brought up something important that I regrettably left out. I was NOT violent towards my younger sister. I never hit her or threatened her or forced her into doing what we did. I didn't have to because as I mentioned earlier, she was into it (for lack of better words). I think we already established that as an adult now, I know that she didn't know what she was doing. I would have never been violent towards my sister anyway. I was a kid that was afraid of a lot of things so if she would have told me to stop or pushed me away, I would have never done anything. Based on my research about this, I think this is where a lot of her shame comes from because she didn't show any restraint and feels guilty that she wanted it to happen. I'm sure her therapist told her this but I also tried to reassure her that it wasn't her fault and that she didn't know what she was doing.
I feel like I need to stress this again. As an adult I know that even if a kid doesn't fight something and even show interest in it does not mean that he is consciously welcoming it and to take advantage of this is WRONG! A 12 year old kid however, may see this differently which apparently was the case for me. Perhaps it is all subjective. What may be clear for some 12 or 13 year olds may not be so clear for others.