by orion13213 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:14 pm
Sounds eerily familiar to someone I know.
-She could have a history of abuse.
-She could have some kind of Cluster B Personality Disorder (PD). Check out the Personality Disorder Forums: Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD), Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), Antisocial Personality Disorder (AsPD). You might see some familiar behaviors in there.
-She could be abused and have a PD.
These things are difficult to determine, and anyhow only an ethical professional should attempt it, and it doesn't sound like she is interested in communicating with one (or you, unfortunately).
For example if she is very beautiful HPD could be involved. She could also have more than one disorder going on; the one I know is likely HPD but she also enjoys some psychological sadism...getting me all excited in anticipation of romance but then knocking me down...then she comes back later to start over again. Maybe she's HPD/NPD or HPD/AsPD...the combinations are easy to make but in the end they are just categories with the illusion of being more box-like then they actually are - Cluster B is more like a nebulous cloud and the PD's are dimensions/concentrations that affected people often freely move between. What's important for me is to remember that the woman I know has something wrong with her, even though it's hard to see because she is really beautiful. I suspect she is HPD and suffered some kind of abuse.
Picking through your account:
"Hot and Cold" - often an indication of push-pull behaviors seen in Cluster B PD's. For example, people with BPD think "I hate you/don't leave me"
"Never contacts people, they have to contact her." An indication of narcissism, or morbid self-love; worst in those with NPD. No empathy for others. Fundamentally, insecurity at the root.
"Walls to keep people out, so they don't hurt her." She has been hurt in the past, maybe abused. Or maybe she has a PD and feels alienated from the rest of humanity.
"Could go the rest of her life w/o talking to another person and be fine with that." More narcissism, low empathy.
"Doesn't feel human; no emotions." Flat affect. Result of depression or possibly a PD like BPD or AsPD.
She seems like she enjoys your attention but wants no relationship. She hinted that she is lesbian or bisexual? In that case she might not be into you (you are a guy?). Unfortunately when you told her you liked you pushed it too far and she fled. Obviously...fear of intimacy.
Unfortunately we meet people like this, they seem interesting and lovable and we would like to have relationships with them but because of their conditions they aren't available. There isn't really too much you can do about it. They call the shots...like you said, they will drive you crazy because they operate with little empathy for you.
If you are going to stay in contact with her, know and respect her limitations, and don't try to save her.
-- Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:15 pm --
Sounds eerily familiar to someone I know.
-She could have a history of abuse.
-She could have some kind of Cluster B Personality Disorder (PD). Check out the Personality Disorder Forums: Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD), Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), Antisocial Personality Disorder (AsPD). You might see some familiar behaviors in there.
-She could be abused and have a PD.
These things are difficult to determine, and anyhow only an ethical professional should attempt it, and it doesn't sound like she is interested in communicating with one (or you, unfortunately).
For example if she is very beautiful HPD could be involved. She could also have more than one disorder going on; the one I know is likely HPD but she also enjoys some psychological sadism...getting me all excited in anticipation of romance but then knocking me down...then she comes back later to start over again. Maybe she's HPD/NPD or HPD/AsPD...the combinations are easy to make but in the end they are just categories with the illusion of being more box-like then they actually are - Cluster B is more like a nebulous cloud and the PD's are dimensions/concentrations that affected people often freely move between. What's important for me is to remember that the woman I know has something wrong with her, even though it's hard to see because she is really beautiful. I suspect she is HPD and suffered some kind of abuse.
Picking through your account:
"Hot and Cold" - often an indication of push-pull behaviors seen in Cluster B PD's. For example, people with BPD think "I hate you/don't leave me"
"Never contacts people, they have to contact her." An indication of narcissism, or morbid self-love; worst in those with NPD. No empathy for others. Fundamentally, insecurity at the root.
"Walls to keep people out, so they don't hurt her." She has been hurt in the past, maybe abused. Or maybe she has a PD and feels alienated from the rest of humanity.
"Could go the rest of her life w/o talking to another person and be fine with that." More narcissism, low empathy.
"Doesn't feel human; no emotions." Flat affect. Result of depression or possibly a PD like BPD or AsPD.
She seems like she enjoys your attention but wants no relationship. She hinted that she is lesbian or bisexual? In that case she might not be into you (you are a guy?). Unfortunately when you told her you liked you pushed it too far and she fled. Obviously...fear of intimacy.
Unfortunately we meet people like this, they seem interesting and lovable and we would like to have relationships with them but because of their conditions they aren't available. There isn't really too much you can do about it. They call the shots...like you said, they will drive you crazy because they operate with little empathy for you.
If you are going to stay in contact with her, know and respect her limitations, and don't try to save her.
Be tolerant of others, but true to yourself. In supporting you, I try to offer common sense. PM me if you need to.
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