lesson,s in love an sex, by love god manic666

Thank you, One. Sad when one outside of myself is more considerate than one within. For shame, Senza!

-Nanashi-

Forgive the expression: "Stop putting water in my corn flakes, One."

-Senza-

Senza, I sense that you are the protector. I like that.
I will try very hard not to Piss on your cereal again. Just don't piss on my posters! Nan included. She is on your side too.
So am I.
Peace?
One

About the first post...

I can say that this may work or not, as sometimes the less glamorous one isn't insecure, but exactly the opposite. Sometimes that one is the most secure with her looks, thatt's why she decides not to dress like the rest, but follow her own style. For example, sometimes the less glamorous one can be the one who already has a steady boyfriend and isn't interested in finding guys (why can't a girl with a boyfriend go to a club with her friends?) or is just one who is looking for a steady relationship, as Nanashi said, but is smart enough to know that sex in the first date won't usually lead you to that.

Of course, in most cases it will work, specially in USA, as it is very common to find insecure girls that wish they could be the most popular, the "high-school cheerleader", and those are often ready to give themselves fully to anyone who pays attention to them, and therefore will fall in this game. As this is pretty common (not in my country, though, as mine has a similar but different way of dealing with this) you will almost surely score wth that trick.

In case you want a long-lasting relationship, if you act correctly this could even be the first step to achieve that, as you will ahve her on your hands, so she will most surely love you for what you are, and those girls are the most tender and sweet ones you will find, so it can be quite useful to achieve that.

BUT, what I don't agree with is exactly that:

I don't believe there is a girl who isn't pretty, but I DO think that some girls are jut "not pretty for someone in particular". If you don't have standards, that doesn't make you lonely, it just makes you

The male humans usually just think that sex is everything. They can't even be in a loving relationship without sex, no matter what the reason. They will go "hunting" at night just to get laid (Take into conideratiion that I'm a man myself, and that I'm not gay, I even have a steady girlfriend). They can't feel love because they're too focused in sex, if you tell them that you love your girlfriend, you don't care about sex, and tht you give her presents, hugs and kisses all the time, they will think (and say) that you are gay. Most men don't understand that sex isn't the main target of a relationship. Sex is just a way, a way of showing love by "giving yourselves fully to each other", in an act that only cares about pleasing and making the other person happy, while enjoying therselves; an act of full pleasure where the ost important thing isn't the sex itself, but the person you are sharing it with.


I' not saying that it's wrong to go and have sex with someone you don't know, as everyone has physical needs, as well as emotional. I'm just saying that emotional needs shouldnt be left aside, they should be respected as well...


And, about the "cheerleader complex", I mean, the girls who just want to be popular. I believe that they are wrong as well. They may have their justification , as impopularity often comes along with emotional or mental problems, but I don't think that changing themselves to fit in is just the solution. "Fit in" isn't the solution, I think. The right way to do things would be to find someone who cares about you just as you are, and that's not that difficult, if you know how to look. The best solution is to have enough personal integrity to know that you will just be hurt if you try to just "go with the pack". This is because, n general, impopularity is created from "being different", but being different isnt always bad. If you start to act just like everyone else, you will get nowhere. Have you ever seen any parody films? Many times they just laugh at that, at the fact that everyone just follows the flow. Just have some integrity, and you will find the good way out...
I know this is harder than it sounds, as it always feels good to fit in, but you wil probably have to find some other way of fitting in... And, as I said, this is justified, because impopularity often comes with emotional and/Uor mental problems...


Im sorry if I just criticise everything, it's just my point of view... I will make clear that my grlfriend is different than most people (even has DID, among some other unbelievable differences ) but she has found the way to stay as herself, not just be like the rest.

Nanashi wrote:My apologies, One and to you, Manic. Forgive me if I am offended by your thoughts and opinions. I just found the behavior to be predatory and dangerous, certaintly not as you intended to come across I am sure. You have your freedoms just as I do, I am sorry.

-Nanashi-

Your such a sissy, Nana.//////////// You dont have to apologise im not offended, anyway i like you i told you, you speak your mind i respect that.Now the std thing , dont you think a regular check up if sexually active a cool thing. Im a blood doner an they test you there, but so you dont put people at risk you get tested.at the clinic.That was a long time ago before aids moved in. Can i say in england we dont get money for donateing blood we do it for free to help people.NANASHI,there are as many predatory women out there as well as men , the stories are true an blunt but see it from every day life nowdays they are tame. manicxxx

-Senza-

SECRET, I like how you put that, not so course an up front as me, but thats how i was dragged up. thanks for your input

onebravegirl wrote:So Manic, you have given your "lesson" on sex with a stranger.
Your married, have a passionate relationship with your wife, so how about a lesson on how to love?
You asked for it, you called yourself the love god!
One

lesson in love hey my baby, My wife is sexual but not upfront, so i make an effort to please her, as for love i have always loved her an new she was the one, sure i had affairs , why????????? who can say. because i liked them , because i was offered them . But i still loved my wife not them. She new a lot of times an said she waited for me to grow up ,i was her man an thats it.Dont forget i was ill an she put up with that to.she likes a simple life , i dont work since my last breakdown so we drive in the country with my terrier dogs , well they have been spoilt from working dogs by ruth to ######6 lap dogs.She loves her grandkids as i do , I have a few more than ruth from my wayward ways, but as i say i have always loved her,she could have had anyone , you must have seen the last avatar that was me an ruth 10 year ago,mabye some women do love a bad boy . But as i say im not now, an we are happily married,i mean she has missed out on forien holidays as i wont go, not because of flying but of relasps fears in a strange place. when i relapse i relaspe an go awol . We are good togeather an click sexually an mentally.

Your wife sounds like an amazing woman Manic. It sounds like you are content in your marriage.
I grew up in the mountains (ever seen the movie The Edge? I was born where they filmed it) and my dad was a hunter. We were always going for drives and wandering in the bush. I miss the mountains now.
I used to have big dogs but now we have a Pug. I like terriers, smart and fast!
When it comes to love, I believe the trick to loving another is to learn to love them the way they want to be loved, not the way you think they should be loved. Its about giving, not taking. VERY tricky to find the balance though!
One

Do you think those who really struggle with dating/sex/relationships have trouble primarily because of bad technique and poor methods?

I'll be 28 in about a week and have no romantic or sexual experience whatsoever. There are many reasons for this, but I think primarily it is because of low self esteem, and therefore I have been too scared to even try, using any method.

I also have an obsession with virginity. Being a virgin myself, the girl would basically have to be a virgin. I would be insanely jealous if anyone had touched her. I know this attitude is not popular today, but that's the way it is for me, I don't know if I can let go of it.

Therefore any sex partner would have to be my only sex partner, raising the bar to a very high level, one I feel I don't reach myself, which results in inaction, depression, and low self esteem.

thats a guy thing , every guy wants there wife or girlfriend to be a virgin in reality your on a looser. the quote i said before is you want to be the last man in you wife life ,you dont have to be the first, You are going to get this virgin thing out you head. You no a lot of marriage fail if the wife or husband was a virgin to there spouse , later they get this wonder what its like with someone else complex, an often finish having affairs to find out. Y ou have set the goal post to high my friend an in for a lonley life if it dont change

manic666 wrote:But as i say im not now, an we are happily married,i mean she has missed out on forien holidays as i wont go, not because of flying but of relasps fears in a strange place. when i relapse i relaspe an go awol . We are good togeather an click sexually an mentally.

Hey manic666, I hope you don't mind me asking you this.... I have avoidant personality and agoraphobia and am scared to travel on planes and out of my city, and one of the big reasons I avoid relationships is because I don't think I am good enuf for a guy because of my mental problems. Im scared if i meet a nice guy and he wants to travel and go on holidays (like most people do), I wont be able to go and I would let him down and he will just break up with me. This is really stopping me from getting into a relationship. Most guys like their holidays and travel and I dont want to disappoint them. How does your wife handle not being able to go on holidays? Is she okay with that? Does she still travel on her own or with friends? I need some encouragement here- coz I wonder will i ever be able to find a partner who will accept that I cant travel??

And seeing as this is a thread about lessons in love... can you give me advice on how I can meet a nice guy.. im super shy