I hate how my dad said that we make are own friends in this

nightmareb4christmas wrote:

Incorrigible wrote:

nightmareb4christmas wrote:would you all be my friends?

People that talk with you here are already your friends, no?

I hope you are all my friends

thank you

MrHeiliger will be your friend.

what

I recently went back to gothic clothes because I was doing the mainstream thing and ended up so self conscious and neurotic and people thought of me as more of a freak like that and I was paranoid about what people thought of me, I am 28 and with the exception of a miserable year and a half of grabbing my ankles for abercrombie and fitch I have always been content being dressed that way.

The thing about 'Goth' though is that it is different now then it was a few years ago. People laugh and get scared but I love the way I look and it suits my lack of desire to be a proverbial 'drop of golden sun' and my confidence has increased a lot and I get asked about why I am so depressed a lot but I date much more frequently because people love a mystery.

And the 'hate' vibe that people often feel from true 'goth' folks, although I hate conforming and goth is in a sense a label Nazi creation from society to separate people and create an 'Us vs. Them' mentality, sort of like DSM diagnoses have done, when they are meant purely for insurance purposes and a reference to care but the hate vibe from goths that I can think of is most likely indifference and I know when someone says hello and is friendly to me and doesn't talk about my appearance the whole time and is just being socially cool and real, I tend to return the favor.

The other part of this may be that these people may be "Emo Goths" which are like a hybrid yet they hate "Goths and Emos" and are really sad cases because they conform to this attitude of fitting in and surrendering to the label nazis and they are negative as all hell.

But anyone can be a miserable prick.

We are all human.

Then if you dress different from most people - you'll get people shouting things at you.

Recently I got called an emo f*g - I'm not emo though

MCR_ROCKS wrote:Then if you dress different from most people - you'll get people shouting things at you.

Recently I got called an emo f*g - I'm not emo though

I can relate in this manor when i have hoodies and people saying im a chav when im not.

Judgemental society...

Cypheran, is that you in your avatar? Hmmm....you must be one of those chavs I keep hearing about. J/K

There is something to be said for stereotypes and first impressions. We all make judgements based on appearances. Sometimes that is all we have to go on until we can get to know someone a little better.

I'm not saying it's okay for people to hurl insults or jump to conclusions based on dress. But if you're going out of your way to look different you should expect to receive attention and mixed reactions.

OK, don't laugh, but what is 'chav'? I don't think I've heard of it.

LifeSong wrote:OK, don't laugh, but what is 'chav'? I don't think I've heard of it.

It's a word used in the UK and Ireland.

A chav is basically someone who never works, lives off benefits, binge drinks, dresses in tracksuits clothes, wears hoodies, uneducated, sometimes they're linked with anti-social behaviour.

If they're female, they usually get pregnant at a young age, sometimes as young as 14, often to get their own place funded by the public, tend to wear cheap jewellery etc...

Note: you have one or two of these behaviours and not be a chav. So just because someone wears a hoodie doesn't make them a chav.

morning star wrote:

LifeSong wrote:OK, don't laugh, but what is 'chav'? I don't think I've heard of it.

It's a word used in the UK and Ireland.
A chav is basically someone who never works, lives off benefits, binge drinks, dresses in tracksuits clothes, wears hoodies, uneducated, sometimes they're linked with anti-social behaviour.
If they're female, they usually get pregnant at a young age, sometimes as young as 14, often to get their own place funded by the public, tend to wear cheap jewellery etc...
Note: you have one or two of these behaviours and not be a chav. So just because someone wears a hoodie doesn't make them a chav.

I'm in the US. Guess we don't have chavs. We used to call folks fitting your description 'welfare moms' or 'generational welfare' or just folks ' on the dole', meaning taking public money when they could make their own. Except these folks didn't fit a certain style and have a certain look and behave in group-think ways too much.

Shoot, so now we've instiutionalized public welfare AND made it trendy and cool? Oh brother!