Angry with women and others

Hi Xdude, yeah, I thought the same months ago. That I didn't care how they are living their lives, I think to mine and when I will find someone who will be happy with me, I will be ok.
But then that girl came, things went wrong, and I had to add something else to my black list, something that I didn't considered like an idiot, the fact that stories are not eternal and that I will be never someone who whatever girl will be proud of having, 'cause they can have many like me or better.

You see, I checked many sites, blogs and online pages to fight this my mental state; but at the end just my best friend maybe hit the point. He said that this situation is putting me in crysis, as a male and as a person, 'cause while I'm getting attached to people, they are treating me like I'm worthless. And on the matter of facts, things are like this. What does change if I'm there or not? Nothing.
Sh*t, I have been really a beast with that girl, not that things couldn't go wrong anyway, but well, I really treated her bad, feeling constantly offensed by her. When she just started to treat me like others did before her, i just become blind. I even opened up with her, confessing to her embarrassing things, what an idiot. But oh well, everything is used to learn. But looks like I cannot have any other chance with someone else.

Anyway yeah, on 17th august I have an appointment with a Psychiatric/Psycologist, I'm just scared to throw away my money for nothing.
yeah, i know about others in my situation; this is what confirm to me that I'm not wrong; if nowadays 70% of male people are complaining about how things are not looking good; the problems cannot be only in my head. Anyway I don't know that sites you see, in general people are there just for spiting poison; some want to improve, I wanna it too (but my parents are hindering me), but some are thinking that everything is over / everything is useless.

GuessWhat wrote:the fact that stories are not eternal and that I will be never someone who whatever girl will be proud of having, 'cause they can have many like me or better.

I don't know if this is much helpful, but - once I (the female) fall in love I only have eyes for that one person, the rest of the world becomes irrelevant. A lot of my (female) friends function the same way. The more time you spend with a person, the more you share important moments with them, the more attached you get to that specific person. Being in love + sex create a bond that keeps you together even if other interesting/hot/etc people come along, they simply haven't been through things with her that you have, and no stranger can replace that overnight. Not saying people won't cheat, but it's about physical attraction most of time, rarely about finding that same bond with someone else while having one with you (or she wouldn't be with you). It's during the dating period that women are picky/indecisive/reluctant, but once they pick you, they stick to their choice. Passing of time works in your favor with an average girl.

Hi Bobok.
Yes, you're right, everyone works like this. But nowadays with smartphone and app everything is harder, everything is faster, and even the choice can be longer to take. Without deleting the fact that many girls seem like don't want a relationship, jumping from one boy to another. So I'm just a randoms.

Tonight the girl was complaining for one guy, and I was kinda happy, i was thinking "well, i'm not the worst person she ever met", but now I read better the messages and she was just saying that for some reasone she gets tired of every dude in 2 days.
I mean, she's not perfect, I don't think i can show you her, but trust me, she's not that ugly but she is a model neither.
But well, she is tasting for the first time the glory of being a woman and she's playing around with guys.
I'm wondering if my cheating on was just the last drop.

And honestly all of this is getting me mad. I have to cut the group off, reading how she is consoling herself in no time, while I'm rotting in loneliness don't help me at all. Not in my situation.

I did mistakes with her, but I think she wasn't honest too, so I don't even think i deserve this anymore.

bobok wrote:..It's during the dating period that women are picky/indecisive/reluctant, but once they pick you, they stick to their choice. Passing of time works in your favor with an average girl.

Important message ^^^

@GuessWhat

I think your anger, what you are struggling with, is covered well in the documentary "The Red Pill" (interestingly enough, produced by a female, and her commentary on how it took her nearly a year to perceive the male side of story is also worthwhile), and in a book by Warren Farwell, "The Myth of Male Power".

You are probably also struggling with some truth, yes some females are going through a social change, they aren't all that interested in a relationship (YET). Their focus is on pursuing their career goals, sexual experiences, and enjoying their youth. Yes, as females they do have more sexual offers and opportunities than you (and they may say as a male you have opportunities/advantages they don't). As a male, your place in that social shift is not well defined. And you get criticism for expressing you are frustrated by it. See/read my mentions above if you'd like some additional affirmation, you are not the only one.

You also might have met a flake. If this was a male flake, who grew bored in 2 days with every woman he dates, he might have even gotten some praise for it. He might even have some women chasing him because he is a flake. It happens.

The real worry though is how negatively you are affected, so I do hope you can get through this, the side on which you are happy again.

I will look like a braggart but I know it is not my fault.
I'm just asking for something that everybody have, everybody can give it. I'm not asking for the life of a porn actor. Just a normal sentimental life.
It is proven that when this is lacking, human behaviour can only go worse.

Umm: 80 Percent of Women Faking Orgasms, Says Study
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ouch-80-pe ... ays-study/

So is it like 80 percent of these women have got their behavior worse?

There is a lot of disinfo out there about sex life. Avoid the big sites like askmen.com, cosmopolitan, rolling stone, etc. They will always make it look like having no sex life means being a loser. And that’s because their main officials are sexual predators.

Anyone who told you that it will make your life normal and sentimental is a liar. They are simply covering up for themselves. Sex has intense effect on the mind. Even men can’t escape it. So they try to arrange rose colored glasses for it. By the way, men tend to fake orgasm also. Times are changing though. People are kinda trying to reverse sexual revolution because women have started to talk about how they feel used and all. You have to be very careful. The kind of feeling you are having is not new to us. If you act on it you will probably end up getting your sex life damaged permanently in the near future. There was this patient who told us that he lost his virginity because of every feeling you are describing here. After marriage, things changed. His wife declared he was a sexual predator for which he focused only on technique. He was unable to show emotions and art required in lovemaking. She knew about it even before marriage, but thought things would change. That didn’t happen. Now his confidence level is destroyed completely.

It is what i want. I just did a mistake, for inexperience, just because i didn't have chances in the past.

No, it had nothing to do with inexperience. You didn’t love the person for which you didn’t think what you were doing anything wrong by kissing the other girl. You saw her vagina only and not her heart. Plenty of “experienced” men and women actually do that and it has more to do with their family background and power. For instance, Rolling Stone guy’s wife slept with pretty much with every employee she hired. She didn’t want to recruit anyone who didn’t find her attractive.

Prostitutes don't care about you.

That girl wouldn’t have cared for you either. In fact she would have ruined your reputation. What you have described here about her already gives a good picture that she doesn't care about who she sleeps with. She would have left your heart broken if you were being too serious about her. In the future, she will be hiding her number.

Here is the thing, you are not gonna die alone. You are not gonna be virgin all your life. Every human has a companion. If you are in college don't waste your time planning on sleeping around. Try for a relationship by meeting girls in your class. Otherwise, after graduation, you will find yourself looking for people in bars and eharmony.

This is a big lack for me.
I have not a stable job, i have not good close friends, and i have not someone with whom feel emotions.
Or even though once I had a job and friends, but still something was empty.
Many tries with the "don't think at it", but well, if it was that simple, it wouldn't an issue.
Here there's a phrase: "Life without smoke, alcohool or sex isn't life". Well, I don't smoke, and I have to drink less, so... I don't think I'm asking much, but yet looks like I cannot deserve it.

Hi Lensen, i'm really sorry, I didn't notice your post before.

lensen wrote:Umm: 80 Percent of Women Faking Orgasms, Says Study
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ouch-80-pe ... ays-study/

So is it like 80 percent of these women have got their behavior worse?

80% is too big, I knew something less (and less again if lesbian, 25% of lesbians say to reach the orgasm in every laid, probably 'cause lesbian sex last more). Then there's the fact that women and men have different need of sex, for women is more about mental side.

Anyway yes, sometimes I read that if women are in a bad mood is mostly 'cause thay have not much sex, or not good enough. Said by women. Anyway it is not that issue, or not the main at least.

If I can get laid once, well yes, i can be die happy without an heavy, but still having sex once means nothing.

People are kinda trying to reverse sexual revolution because women have started to talk about how they feel used and all. You have to be very careful. The kind of feeling you are having is not new to us. If you act on it you will probably end up getting your sex life damaged permanently in the near future.

I don't understand what you are talking about. We talked some replys above how times are deeply changed, and I don't think we can reverse them, even for the fact that they changed 'cause technology progress.

I don't want to be hypocrtical, women sure suffered in the past, but if the price is reversing the entire badge, well, I think it will cause just an hating spiral, where every tot years thing chanced and one of the two gender will suffer. But this is an "incorporal" chatter, I mean there is not a big deal or plot behind this. Simply men wants girls, and girls have now many offers so they choice the best.

There was this patient who told us that he lost his virginity because of every feeling you are describing here. After marriage, things changed. His wife declared he was a sexual predator for which he focused only on technique. He was unable to show emotions and art required in lovemaking. She knew about it even before marriage, but thought things would change. That didn’t happen. Now his confidence level is destroyed completely.

So, the dude lost his virginity 'cause he was scared (with who?), after marriage his wife left him 'cause he can't love, even if she knew it before. And he married her even if he wanted just having sex?
Sorry, it sounds like a tale.

But hey, in my opinion they focused on the wrong issue. Is the dude couldn't love cause he rashed to lose his vriginity, or because owning his virginity too much time ruins his trust in love?

But don't think wrong about me. It is since 2 years that I started to say that I'm scared about my behaviour with being continually rejected. I realized my situation since 2016, with some suspect since 2015. Well, in 2013 I past a moment of anorexia, where I wanted so much to lose weight in order to like to girls. Anyway my suspect was real, indeed I overreacted almost always after a break-up.

Now I'm trying even an anger managment way, but lately I lose sight from the road.

No, it had nothing to do with inexperience. You didn’t love the person for which you didn’t think what you were doing anything wrong by kissing the other girl. You saw her vagina only and not her heart. Plenty of “experienced” men and women actually do that and it has more to do with their family background and power. For instance, Rolling Stone guy’s wife slept with pretty much with every employee she hired. She didn’t want to recruit anyone who didn’t find her attractive.

Sure I didn't love her; we started dating since 10 days before that (we met for a date 5 times).
Well, I kinda realized i was doing something wrong, I was really drunk, but I knew it was wrong; and after doing it I went away... but then I don't know, once out I took the instagram contact from another one (but I already knew that girl), and the next day I contacted her. I did it 'cause I did the mistake so I didn't want stay with the girl anymore, I didn't deserve her anymore; didn't I? I'm afraid I'm kinda a worm.

Huff... I didn't miss her when I was busy with another girl.. even if I refused two girls too, 'cause i was thinking at her.
Sure I felt really bad about her, I can say it... but I was in fight; it was just a short story, but I had guilty feelings, I miss her, but maybe I miss just when we were naked and hugged; when I said to her she was beautiful but her answered that instead I was beautiful.

I don't know what's wrong. I can remember i was a little bit tired of her even before that night. Probably it was really fear of intimacy. But I repeat, I ran to her one night 'cause she was sad. 40 km of distance, I came back home at 4 a.m. and It was snowing that night. She sent a message where she was really happy about what I did, and she thought that was better than having sex. I was so proud of me.

That girl wouldn’t have cared for you either. In fact she would have ruined your reputation. What you have described here about her already gives a good picture that she doesn't care about who she sleeps with. She would have left your heart broken if you were being too serious about her. In the future, she will be hiding her number.

Oh, my heart is broken as well, 'cause after the break-up there's other. But anyway I meant that I would like to have sex with someone who appreciate me a bit at least. Not with a prostitute.

I don't know what do you mean with ruining my reputation. Well, she can do it since I had ed problems with her, and I crawled for her, metaphorically.

Here is the thing, you are not gonna die alone. You are not gonna be virgin all your life. Every human has a companion. If you are in college don't waste your time planning on sleeping around. Try for a relationship by meeting girls in your class. Otherwise, after graduation, you will find yourself looking for people in bars and eharmony.

I'm 22 yo.
I just have a group of friends for meeting girl (they are all kinda gay), but It doesn't work 'cause... well, girls aren't interested in me.. I mean 50% are lesbian and 45% are not interested , 5% are whom I'm not interested.

So, I had that encounter with the psychiatrist, and he said that I have some kind of modest depression; he can't say if it is genetical. So now I take a lightly anti-depressive in drops, 10 per day.

So things started going great, i was keeping to have fun with a girl, but we haven't sex yet and she is not interested in a serious relationship, plus she is very cold when I chat with her, and I thought she was having a date with another one when I contacted her 4 day ago; but well I had to expect it, didn't I?

So, the medicine isn't working so good now. I'm more sure this bad situation isn't in my mind.

Hi GuessWhat,

At least in my mind, I certainly don't think it's all in your head. Your anger/frustration is common, but...

It was also good to read you went and saw someone. The anti-depressants aren't going to immediately change others, the external reality, but if it helps to lift the dark cloud over your mind, you benefit from that now, and may benefit later as well (others do pick up on our moods, and if they are grim, depressed, they are more likely to avoid us). In other words, you may find others react different because you are acting different.

Just wanted to chime in and say my 20's and relationships with women were a joke and my obsession with MGTOW at one point was gay and retarded. if a girl flakes out on you or bails it's for the best. can't get over it? too bad you're in a retarded stage of your life. I know I was. Need to learn to not care if they don't care and have a life outside of relationships if you're single.