Victim Trauma

it's different cause the 35 year old could be seen as much more of an authority figure than the 17 year old.for the most part many 14 year old girls are pretty much equal maturity wise as a 17 year old boy.

Are you seriously asking me to reference why a girl barely out of (or still in) puberty isn't as developed as a grown woman? Have you ever noticed the difference between a 13 year old's breasts and an adult woman's breasts, for example? Oh, sorry, this thread was about a girl who is one year older, there i go comparing apples to oranges again.

jasmin wrote:You've been brave enough to share views that differ a bit from my own here and it's your right, so why not tell us exactly what your views about consent are?

Personally, I couldn't care less what the age of consent is. I go after a good argument like a hound after a rabbit, and I'm more than willing to argue to the death. Aren't you glad you're not married to me

I tried to come up with a better answer to your question, but I'm morally deficient, and all I could conjure up was overwhelming apathy. Honestly, even if given the opportunity, I wouldn't change the laws. If age of consent lines aren’t drawn somewhere, then adults will be having sex with little children and causing all kinds of psychological trauma. It’s not like we don’t have enough messed up people already. I really did try to come up with a better answer to your question than this, but I had nothing personal vested in this discussion whatsoever.

jasmin wrote:Just so we're clear, kids always have the right to decide what happens to their body. That's the whole principle behind not being allowed to touch a child sexually.

I get what your trying to say, but, actually, the whole principle behind not being allowed to touch a child sexually, is that they don’t have the right to decide what happens to their body until they reach the age of consent.

jack1953 wrote:You asked, now I will answer. I'm 57 years old and have been 'born again' only the last 10 of those 57 years.

When people are "born again," I always wonder why. It's usually a strong counteraction to an enormous sense of guilt.

jack1953 wrote:Sex outside of marriage is not an option. Wrong, wrong, wrong!

I don't know, Jack. You should always keep your options open. You never know when a hot willing young 14y/o might come along.

jack1953 wrote:Jesus loves you jasmin and wants you in His family too!

Sorry - I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth. Does he love me too?

I kind of like debating/arguing too, it makes me come up with ideas
Kids have the right to not have anything done to them while they can't know enough to give their consent, that means that they have rights over their own bodies.

nightstrife wrote:

jasmin wrote:You've been brave enough to share views that differ a bit from my own here and it's your right, so why not tell us exactly what your views about consent are?

Personally, I couldn't care less what the age of consent is. I go after a good argument like a hound after a rabbit, and I'm more than willing to argue to the death. Aren't you glad you're not married to me

I tried to come up with a better answer to your question, but I'm morally deficient, and all I could conjure up was overwhelming apathy. Honestly, even if given the opportunity, I wouldn't change the laws. If age of consent lines aren’t drawn somewhere, then adults will be having sex with little children and causing all kinds of psychological trauma. It’s not like we don’t have enough messed up people already. I really did try to come up with a better answer to your question than this, but I had nothing personal vested in this discussion whatsoever.

jasmin wrote:Just so we're clear, kids always have the right to decide what happens to their body. That's the whole principle behind not being allowed to touch a child sexually.

I get what your trying to say, but, actually, the whole principle behind not being allowed to touch a child sexually, is that they don’t have the right to decide what happens to their body until they reach the age of consent.

jack1953 wrote:You asked, now I will answer. I'm 57 years old and have been 'born again' only the last 10 of those 57 years.

When people are "born again," I always wonder why. It's usually a strong counteraction to an enormous sense of guilt.

jack1953 wrote:Sex outside of marriage is not an option. Wrong, wrong, wrong!

I don't know, Jack. You should always keep your options open. You never know when a hot willing young 14y/o might come along.

jack1953 wrote:Jesus loves you jasmin and wants you in His family too!

Sorry - I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth. Does he love me too?

He loves everyone nightstrife, yes you too, even with all your condescension and unbelief. Just remember this dialogue we had here because one day we will all have to be accountable.

jasmin wrote:I kind of like debating/arguing too, it makes me come up with ideas
Kids have the right to not have anything done to them while they can't know enough to give their consent, that means that they have rights over their own bodies.

Women also have a right over their own bodies, correct? That's why abortion is legal because that child in the womb is HER property and she had a right to do whatever she wants with her property! Agree?

Abortion is legal because no one should be forced to share their bodies with another being/person, no matter what. So what does that have to do with our topic?

jasmin wrote:Abortion is legal because no one should be forced to share their bodies with another being/person, no matter what. So what does that have to do with our topic?

It doesn't. I was commenting on your response. What do you mean by forced to share their bodies????

I get what your trying to say, but, actually, the whole principle behind not being allowed to touch a child sexually, is that they [i]don’t have the right to decide what happens to their body until they reach the age of consent. nightstrife wrote .[/i]more than that they don't have the information or maturity to make the decision. many survivors ,not victims , never admit or accept the effects of abuse but they are there just the same

jack1953 wrote:However I am bright enough to see and realize a huge difference between a 7 year old and a 14 year old. Historians have determined Mary,who gave birth to Jesus was only about 13 or 14 when she did, and was engaged to Joseph at the time, which was common practice.

Historians have also determined that age of consent was very often as young as seven throughout history and across cultures. Historically, women were married at pubescent ages.

jack1953 wrote:What do you mean by forced to share their bodies????

Is it really not clear how women share their bodies with their baby? Earlier in the thread, this could have been an honest question, but considering your fundamentalist views on religion, this seems like bait.