Quiet corner of PF

My instincts are shouting at me. But they dont affect his behavior. Only mine and I am attempting every approach.

Grey rock made him angry. I have noticed he is very socially astute and observant. Any subtle change in my behavior he notices. I cant hide it. He calls it out right away. He is higher on the spectrum of social acuity and manipulation skills than I.

If the weaknesses he is showing like his mood swings etc. are real in that light I cant say. I cant read this person very well. Whatever he is doing he is better at it than me. I underestimated him and need to stop doing that. Posting here is like treading water so I dont sink but I have to fight not to get pulled under.

Dulcet just told me in the AsPD forum that my stalker is CreamFreak catfishing me.

Thanks for the headsup Dulcet and I am sorry she ruined your fun Cream.

Its possible. He does seem to use many words and references from here. But I also kind of confirmed his irl identity and its not Creamys. So I dont know what to think. Either way good looking out Dulcet.

You can post future insights here.

I dont think its CreamFreak but I did have to pause because he sent me an email containing the words "numb" and "reclusive" which are two words I used in this thread.

It could be coincidence or he keylogged me and is watching my activity here.

He was about to have another bad day last night. I wasnt in the mood to communicate much and he was getting angry if I wasnt answering his email within 5 minutes even though I told him I was just tired.

I decided to speak over the phone. I had not heard his voice before. Its possible to get a much better sense of a person from their voice. Hear the sincerity or the lying.

He sounded like a liar to me. Its easier to hide all that behind text but I got a sense of a slick salesman or something. Makes it easier for me not to believe him now. Not that he wont keep trying.

It doesnt matter that he has my number because its just a throwaway phone. My number changes all the time. I dont like the past sneaking up on me.

I can read him better now though. I believe its an act. I dont know, he might think I am rich or something. I can see how he could get that impression. He might find me interesting for that reason. Rich and exploitable.

Now how to shake him off. He is a criminal.

He keeps saying I havent been able to get rid of him and wont be able to.

Its easy to say "block him" or "ignore him" but its not so easy to do. Its like saying "Dont let the hungry bear eat you. Ignore the hungry bear."

I am just complaining at this point.

^ Now I feel bad for saying those things.

I dont know what to believe.

Again: "You havent been able to get rid of me and I dont think you will be able to."

What does that mean? Is it supposed to be romantic? What makes someone say that so many times? Is there a hidden threat or am I paranoid?

This person is completely dominating me. I have never known someone with such an aggressive and controlling personality. I have known people like that but not to this extreme. I am completely overpowered. He has an advantage over me in every possible way. He is older, more life experience, knows everything about me, more aggressive, etc.

He is training me with manipulation to do what he wants. I already knows what happens if I ignore him or reject him and its extending to where I cant disagree with him now. Not over something important to him anyways. First sign of resistance from me he starts throwing another fit which all my instincts tell me to stop him. So I find myself agreeing with things just to appease him.

I can imagine how this will be later if its like this now.

He told me his plans per him and me which involve us being completely isolated in the wilderness and me being completely dependent on him. I will be 100% at his mercy. But for some reason I felt like I had to agree. This is entirely against my nature. I hate being dependent on others and I hate being controlled.

On one hand I have to be kind of impressed at his skills here. I am not a willing participant apart from being a slave to the programming or whatever he is using on me. This entire thing is nonconsensual and I think he knows it. That is probably what is exciting him about it.

I have to think that this is a farce, EE.

I don't want to think that you are so susceptible to this.

If you are telling the truth and not joking, then I advise that you immediately start getting friends, trusted family, people you trust here, others with good judgement to come alongside you and help you see this clearly and take needed action.

If this is real, it is extremely worrisome.

No farce. I have PMed mods proof.

It is worrisome.

Thats why I am writing here so I can keep perspective as much as possible.

My family is useless re help. I told my mom and tried to communicate the urgency and danger and she had some magical thinking solution: "Just imagine yourself safe." Thats it.