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Re: A sleepover, your thoughts?

Postby Archeopendra » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:21 am

GinaSmith wrote:I think you need to look at all the things that may constitute the 'something else' - feelings towards the boys you know you can't act on, feelings towards your sexuality in general, feelings of guilt towards others that may be being channelled into this one, actually very straightforward scenario, etc.


So I've spent some time thinking about this. I made a nice list for myself and a few things came to mind that I only realized after sleeping on it. I've come to the conclusion that there is indeed an element of over exaggeration. Without going into detail, I tend to associate night and sleeping with vulnerability [I realize how that sounds, so I'd like to state that it's not because of something that has happened to me] which is certainly affecting how I think about this situation. However, even realizing that, it's still not enough for me to think of the situation as black and white. If I just decide that it's ok because I'm no threat, there are still too many things that could be damaged from my choice.

Anomalous Cluster wrote:The major objection to that idea is if it somehow comes out later they could be concerned that you were being sneaky about it. The main ways that would happen are if there was some kind of incident, which it doesn't sound like there will be (those things always come out sooner or later), or if somebody spreads the word incautiously.


Exactly. Once I decide that it would be alright to stay over without thier knowing, I can never go back. I'd much rather have the situation be I'm telling you now before sleeping over even happens because I want you to know that I'm no threat rather than I'm telling you now because I want to (perhaps someday) and you'll have to believe I've never been a threat when I've slept over."

Anomalous Cluster wrote:How does his girlfriend seem? Is she a reasonable sort? Does she have an arsenal of automatic weapons? If she can understand that you are not a monster she may also understand why you wanted to keep this a secret if you wind up telling her further along.


Her household isn't quite as 'anti-weapons' as ours was, but I don't believe that she has any household weapons. She seems very reasonable to me. I don't know her that well, but the times I have spent with her and her family she's always been a caring and understanding individual. It's really the husband that's stopping me.

Anomalous Cluster wrote:But that pool does sound pretty awesome.


Especially to someone who loves swimming, but doesn't have any access to a pool! :D

-- Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:29 pm --

Blben wrote:If your dad already knows about your attractions then I am sure that he has taken that into though if he is allowing you to help them move and be around his gfs children.


To be honest, his "it's alright, just sleepover" opinion doesn't hold a lot of weight with me because they aren't his children. I admit that he's going to be a big part of thier lives from now on since he'll be living with them and I appretiate his support, but I'm more concerned with the people that should have a say and aren't required to unconditionally love me. :P
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Re: A sleepover, your thoughts?

Postby Anomalous Cluster » Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:09 pm

Yeah, I think your plan (the pool plan) is the way to go on this one. Although you should take into consideration whether or not it's a clean hotel, because cockroaches are creepy.

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Lots of variables here, lol.
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Re: A sleepover, your thoughts?

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Re: A sleepover, your thoughts?

Postby Archeopendra » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:25 am

Hey all!

Sorry it took me so long to respond. The WiFi/Internet wasn't set up at the new house, and I've been quite busy with the first day back to college. I've got a few minutes so I thought I would give you all closure about how my trip went.

Sorry for the Novel. Tl/Dr version: It went extremely well even though my plan was utterly destroyed!

The first day was spent organizing the things that were going to the new house. The plan was to move them directly into vehicles, then take them to the house. This didn't work out because the people that were renting before us were late and still moving out. While the cars were getting packed I reorganized my car. It had been stuffed with things to bring to the new house a few days prior from a storage area. Once I got the spot open I went inside to show off my apparently truly horrendous hinting skills.

"I was reorganizing my car. I was able to get the front seat clear so there is now room for more things [looks towards father] or a person."

When we finish getting everything they need to stay in a hotel for the night, since we can't stay in the new house, we had to run a couple quick errands and drop one of the kids off at a birthday party. We' were all outside deciding on whose going where. We had two of the vehicles (mine, and their main suv) and I have room for one. My dad still hadn't mentioned anything about riding with me. As we're deciding what to do, one of the kids asks, "Can I ride with you?". (And yes, it just had to be the really hot one.)

In reality it was only fractions of a second, but it felt like time stopped still as I saw my father just look at me expecting me to answer. After I did the biggest internal 'facepalm' ever I said "ok" because I couldn't think of a good reason on the spot. Think that's bad? It got worse. My dad and his girlfriend decided our game plan. They were going to take the main car with everyone but myself and [Kid#1] to go run the errands while we were to stay behind and decide where to eat after the errands. What I heard was, "We're going to drive away now. [Kid#1], you stay here in the car alone with Archeopendra in the middle of nowhere (well, there's at least one cornfield in each direction) where you get one bar on the phone if your lucky while we drive away. Ok, bye!". That first 'facepalm' became jealous.

Since it was just chatting and driving after we decided where to go, it went well. At first I felt pretty awkward because I was stuck in the situation, but eventually we picked a restaurant and took off towards it. He was able to text his mother about where we were going.

I had a discovery while we were going down the highway. After the akwardness faded, I noticed that I didn't feel guilty like I thought I would. After we met back up with the others it went fine as a group. On the way to the hotel, we were paired once again which went fine.

The new hotel was a bit of a drive from the one that I had booked, and it was also much more expensive. I eventually decided that I would sleep in the room with them that night. I was thinking of sleeping in my car rather than the hotel because of the expense, but I decided that because I hadn't felt guilty before, I might as well try the night and see how I feel.

Before going to bed though, we went to that pool's hotel for a swim. It was an unpleasant experience unfortunately because of two things. My father, in his continuing efforts to make sure the kids like him, was being active with the kids. Tossing them around in the pool, playing pool games, etc. The kids loved it, but it only made me feel jealous of him (I've not been in situations which would lead me to feel jealoucy, but I learned that it is not a very fun emotion). Later I learned that his girlfriend said she also got jealous, only of the kids since they were monopolizing his time. The second reason it was unpleasant, was because another of my quircks is that I don't like kids rough housing in the pool. This includes things like being tossed for big splashes.

Rant: Rough housing in an area where you aren't able to breath?! Why am I the only person to think that is insane?! I can't stand seeing people getting dunked by others! You wouldn't push someone into a cloud of poisonous gas, why is it so acceptable for water?!

Ranting aside I had to hide out in the sauna (and I detest heat) because I was feeling so unsettled.
I felt better after we got back to the room, and sleeping through the night went uneventful. We were so crowded and I was sleeping on the hard floor so I was pretty distracted.

To try and stick to big picture events, rather than every little detail, the only other thing that I want to mention is that I was left with the kids at the house while my father and girlfriend went to go pick up some of the big furniture pieces they were buying new for the house. The kids were supposed to go with, but they wanted to stay home after the busy day. It was a good thing they didn't go in the end because they furniture shopping couldn't have gone worse. Some of the products they ordered were not there, and in the middle of their shopping the girlfriend was notified of a close family members passing. They called and asked if I would take the kids out to supper, of course I was glad to, and we left. I made my way around a town I'd never been to before (thank goodness for IPhones!) and after only getting lost once we made it back to the house in time to eat the food we picked up. I didn't feel guilty or anything that time, however I had a goal, which made it easier to keep my mind off anything else.

Well that is the story. I've changed my stance a bit now, though. I don't plan on ever telling the girlfriend. Since I didn't tell her before hand, I don't think I could bear telling her now when she might always wonder.

I'm questioning whether I could live with them now. They both offered and said their door is always open to me. Truthfully, I'm getting fed up with my mother, whom I live with at the moment. She literally threw a temper tantrum when my answer to "so how was your time with your father" wasn't a negative comment. I'm talking flailing limbs as she laid in bed and everything... It would be easier than trying to find an apartment, and I genuinely enjoyed the time I spent with them. It was one of the best times of my life, which might speak more to how sheltered I am than anything else.

I feel like I should put a The End. :D Thanks for reading and responding everyone! Sorry for taking so long to respond!
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Re: A sleepover, your thoughts?

Postby MissIve » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:19 am

OMG Archeopendra, you are HILARIOUS!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I take it back Anomalous...THIS is the best post I've ever read. LMAO!

I'm saving this one to read when I'm feeling like I need a laugh. THANK YOU for you post!

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Re: A sleepover, your thoughts?

Postby GinaSmith » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:08 am

See, your enemies are heat and water, not kids. When push came to shove, you didn't abuse them, so nothing to worry about.
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Re: A sleepover, your thoughts?

Postby Anomalous Cluster » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:11 pm

MissIve wrote:OMG Archeopendra, you are HILARIOUS!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I take it back Anomalous...THIS is the best post I've ever read. LMAO!


Fair enough. :lol:

I'm glad everything worked out for you.
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