Organize

I wonder if pedophiles in here should organize to make an association working for our rights to get help and support and less stigma and prejudices?

As long as we don't work to liberaze sex with minors but reject such encounters and child porn I think we could be taken seriously. In what ways we should work we can determine and agree together.

I think it's necessary that we take back our authority and talk for ourselves, and not letting the whole world talk about us as freaks and sickos.

Some changes happen so slowly, you don't notice them.
Other changes happen so fast they don't notice you.

I've been trying to start something imilar for necrophiliacs. What I'm finding out is that to my face, people will act like they understand me, at least to some degree, but when it really comes down to the thick of things, they're overcome with intense fear, hatred, bitterness, and all the other negativity they were taught to feel about us growing up. We're all fighting an uphill battle here.

Alevi wrote:Some changes happen so slowly, you don't notice them.
Other changes happen so fast they don't notice you.

"Nothing changes if nothing changes, and if I keep doing what I've always done, I'll keep getting what I've always got, and will keep feeling what I always felt."

Yes, acceptance is something everybody craves.
Especially those who haven't nurtured, and haven't been given acceptance from their parents.
And for those, acceptance from friends can help.

But changes in how society as a whole views things, takes decades.
And the best one can do to help speed things along, is to live a good life and focus on one's own personal growth.
Society does change.
Just look at all that has been accomplished - and look at what has not been accomplished.
Slavery has been abolished, and black people are accepted as equals to whites.
And yet some don't like black people.
And you can't force their opinion to change, because some actually do need somebody other than themselves to hate.

Alevi wrote:Yes, acceptance is something everybody craves.
Especially those who haven't nurtured, and haven't been given acceptance from their parents.
And for those, acceptance from friends can help.

But changes in how society as a whole views things, takes decades.
And the best one can do to help speed things along, is to live a good life and focus on one's own personal growth.
Society does change.
Just look at all that has been accomplished - and look at what has not been accomplished.
Slavery has been abolished, and black people are accepted as equals to whites.
And yet some don't like black people.
And you can't force their opinion to change, because some actually do need somebody other than themselves to hate.

I know things have changed. But for pedophiles I'm afraid things are changing in the wrong direction. The panic in society is only growing. We will see more and more harsh reactions, and we may lose more and more of our rights. Perhaps one day just being a pedophile will lead to monitoring and registriation.

If we don't give ourself a voice in the debate, people will only talk ABOUT us. And they will talk about us as evil perverts. No one dares to defend us.

And I'm not thinking of myself. I'm thinking of the young pedophiles. I don't want them to get the life I did. Why not give them the chance we didn't get?

Society still has issues accepting other forms of sexual orientation. For instance, even 100 years ago, being gay was a huge blasphemy, you got killed if you dare not conform, now being gay is almost just as accepted as it is to be a different race, yet there are still anti gay people out there. Who knows what will become mainstream 100 years from now. Am I condoning the abuse of children? Of course not, but perhaps pedophiles will have more treatment options by then, who's to say?

necrofairy wrote: but perhaps pedophiles will have more treatment options by then, who's to say?

I hope so, because right now it's just sad. Just last month my whole family found out about my feelings, as well as the 10 year old I love and his parents. After some not-so extensive therapy of telling a bunch of strangers all my secrets, I was told that since I hadn't offended (which is true, nor would I), there isn't anything anybody will really do for me. I was sent on my merry little way as if nothing had happened. Maybe they didn't look into that much because I'm only 18... But still, its almost as if I'm better off offending just to receive help... How backwards is that?

qo612 wrote: I was sent on my merry little way as if nothing had happened. Maybe they didn't look into that much because I'm only 18... But still, its almost as if I'm better off offending just to receive help... How backwards is that?

I keep hearing this.

"Receive help".

"Get treatment".

You know, one of the things that a therapist would ask you, is: "And what do you think I can do for you?".

qo612 wrote:

necrofairy wrote: but perhaps pedophiles will have more treatment options by then, who's to say?

I hope so, because right now it's just sad. Just last month my whole family found out about my feelings, as well as the 10 year old I love and his parents. After some not-so extensive therapy of telling a bunch of strangers all my secrets, I was told that since I hadn't offended (which is true, nor would I), there isn't anything anybody will really do for me. I was sent on my merry little way as if nothing had happened. Maybe they didn't look into that much because I'm only 18... But still, its almost as if I'm better off offending just to receive help... How backwards is that?

Since sexual attraction is not something you can change, a therapist can't do anything with the fact that you are attracted to children. But, if you have control issues, or have any other diagnoses like depression, anxiety or you are suffering because of your pedophilia you will get help. That is equal for everyone, no matter what sexuality you've got.