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Well I don't profess to have control issues, depression, anxiety and I'm not really suffering, just a little stressed. I suppose the real issue is just coping with it all and having a decent outlet for sharing, in which I found this forum. I know there's really no help, just a tough road ahead.

qo612 wrote:Well I don't profess to have control issues, depression, anxiety and I'm not really suffering, just a little stressed. I suppose the real issue is just coping with it all and having a decent outlet for sharing, in which I found this forum. I know there's really no help, just a tough road ahead.

Are you attracted only to children or ppl at the same age too?

Agrees, I could walk into a therapist's office right now, and if i'm lucky, they might give me a silly little blurb and medicate me, with a big fat maybe, unless I say i'm suicidal because of my necrophilia or some crap like that, there really aren't any answers out there for anyone, are there? It's almost like society is tempting us to offend, just so they can throw us away. A$$ backwards.

Lonelyrider wrote:

qo612 wrote:Well I don't profess to have control issues, depression, anxiety and I'm not really suffering, just a little stressed. I suppose the real issue is just coping with it all and having a decent outlet for sharing, in which I found this forum. I know there's really no help, just a tough road ahead.

Are you attracted only to children or ppl at the same age too?

Only children (males to be exact). I wish I could find anybody my age attractive, but it's pretty much futile. The doctors in the pscyh ward did help with my strong desire to commit suicide, so I guess it wasn't a total waste of time.

qo612 wrote:

Lonelyrider wrote:

qo612 wrote:Well I don't profess to have control issues, depression, anxiety and I'm not really suffering, just a little stressed. I suppose the real issue is just coping with it all and having a decent outlet for sharing, in which I found this forum. I know there's really no help, just a tough road ahead.

Are you attracted only to children or ppl at the same age too?

Only children (males to be exact). I wish I could find anybody my age attractive, but it's pretty much futile. The doctors in the pscyh ward did help with my strong desire to commit suicide, so I guess it wasn't a total waste of time.

If this is the case, you can get help to develop at sexual attraction to ppl at your own age. You can't change pedophilia, but you can develop a sexual and emotional interest in adults. So if you try that, and get help with figuring out what stopped your development. So there's no need to be hopeless about that!

Lonelyrider, what exactly do you have in mind. I think it's a great idea. Can be a little tricky though because we are the most hated group in existance. There would be some safety issues for anyone who is out in the open so to speak. Any official spokesperson for the group would have to be willing to take that risk or we'd have to bring someone in who is not a pedophile/minor attracted adult to do our bidding. Of course there are always obstacles with anything worth doing so i'm on board. I really believe that adults who are attracted to minors can play a role in preventing child abuse and if people who have this struggle are able to be open about it they are less likely to cross the line and offend. We definitely need to set the record straight that we are productive members of society just like most people and we have no intent or desire to harm kids or anyone else. We are not people who should be feared. We are people who only want to pursue happiness like everyone else. We understand and respect the legal boundaries and most of us wouldnt cross those boundaries even if there were no legal consequences at all. Anyways. I hope we can have some collaboration on this. It's something that certainly needs to be done.

Yeah I have seen in many forums how it would be great for us pedophiles to get organized and try to convince the people that don't agree with us that we are harmless and not sickos and monsters but I really don't think that society is ready for that at all. We are going in the wrong direction and its sad, yet maybe that is what needs to happen to get started in the right direction. Heck even pedophiles in the same community don't accept each other or think they are better than others, so I really don't see a United front in the near future at all, yet that is just my opinion and that is very little.

Blben wrote:Yeah I have seen in many forums how it would be great for us pedophiles to get organized and try to convince the people that don't agree with us that we are harmless and not sickos and monsters but I really don't think that society is ready for that at all. We are going in the wrong direction and its sad, yet maybe that is what needs to happen to get started in the right direction. Heck even pedophiles in the same community don't accept each other or think they are better than others, so I really don't see a United front in the near future at all, yet that is just my opinion and that is very little.

Biben, Society is filled with uninformed people who cast judgement before attempting understanding. They may not be ready but they aren't going to get to that point unless some awareness of the reality of pedophilia is raised. As for the division among pedophiles, the only ones I really have a problem with are those who harm and molest children. To me, once you cross that line you are not someone who deserves respect from those who act responsibly. That's not to say they cant redeem themselves but it isn't easy. As for any other divisions, there will always be some differing opinions and there will always be those who think they are better than someone else. As long as everyone involved in such a movement can agree on the principles of the vision then differences are okay. I think this is desperately needed. The only oranization that exists that I know of is nambla and they are extremely perverse in their message and arent respected by any pedophile with any moral standards.

I have many ideas regarding this but I don't think it should be discussed openly. Who is interested in joining this? We should dicscuss it through PMs.

necrofairy wrote:Society still has issues accepting other forms of sexual orientation. For instance, even 100 years ago, being gay was a huge blasphemy, you got killed if you dare not conform, now being gay is almost just as accepted as it is to be a different race, yet there are still anti gay people out there. Who knows what will become mainstream 100 years from now. Am I condoning the abuse of children? Of course not, but perhaps pedophiles will have more treatment options by then, who's to say?

Hey, it's nothing personal, but I really hate this version of history - it is to a large extent the sort of narrative that's taught in schools and it always kinda starts at the beginning and skips to an end where everything is fine, with maybe one historical figure in between. "At first, women couldn't vote. Then everyone came to their senses and now women can vote! Isn't that great?" Maybe there's a bit about Susan B. Anthony in there, and how cool she was that she made everyone rethink their positions. Similarly, "At first there was segregation, and then the 60s and 70s happened and now there's no segregation anymore. Aren't you glad Dr. King's speech taught all those nasty Southern white folk that blacks are people too?"

These types of narratives tend to discourage real social change by ignoring the actual factors going into it historically - the blood, sweat and tears and often lives of the people who actually worked to make these things better. Things don't just get better; the GLBT movement, the civil rights movements, and now the burgeoning anticapitalist Occupy movement and related phenomena are ongoing processes built on massive human effort. It's not about what will happen in the next 100 years, as if global society is a force that simply changes on its own. A better question is what will we do, and what kind of potential movements are out there waiting to be established.

Lonelyrider wrote:I have many ideas regarding this but I don't think it should be discussed openly. Who is interested in joining this? We should dicscuss it through PMs.

Feel free to hit me up, if you've got any brilliant ideas I'm happy to hear em. I'm always thinkin' about it myself, but there's some pretty massive (and obvious) difficulties involved in getting together any sort of physical organization.