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Re: Ok.

Postby encephalo » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:31 pm

Like some others have said here, I don't know if therapy is necessary or not. I wouldn't push it too hard if you're still learning to be comfortable with yourself. Talking to therapists or psychologists about this directly might aggravate the situation. I'd approach seeking therapy concerning your attraction to children with caution. Since this issue is still misunderstood by many people (yes, even many psychologists and mental health 'professionals'), I imagine it would be hard to find trustworthy and open-minded therapists to help you with this.

If you were seeking therapy, I'd recommend seeking therapy and help for anxiety, depression, and cognitive distortions versus the sexuality problem itself. Improving your anxiety and negative self-talk, assuming either of those are present, may help you approach the issue of your sexuality more rationally.

Other than that, I'd recommend clicking through the pages of this forum. Beware of "triggers" though, if you're worried about that. FYI, "triggers", I suppose, are generally considered materials (posts, images, links, etc.) that may cause you to do something to harm yourself or others, or to do something illegal, etc. It can be a broad term, I guess.

Educate yourself on pedophilia, pedosexuality, MAPs (minor-attracted persons), and sexuality in general. This has helped me tons. :)

And welcome.
I have the right to be playful and frivolous. :)
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Re: Ok.

Postby Blben » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:11 pm

Yeah you are way too young to label yourself anything, at least wait until you are older and feed into the rest of societies BS about labels and judgement on others. :D
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Re: Ok.

Postby GinaSmith » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:15 pm

From your posts you sound like a thoughtful individual who is concerned about his feelings but not likely to act on them, at least at the present time. It will probably be of some comfort to know (through this site, for example) that you are not alone.

In view of your age and the fact that you would need parental consent for therapy, I would ask whether you feel you need help right away. If not, why not share some of your thoughts and feelings here? There are plenty of people who are happy to listen and offer advice and support.

I agree that counselling (e.g. through school) can be problematic, not least because of confidentiality issues. Therapy can also be a minefield, and I agree that therapy at your age may do more harm than good, as you probably haven't fully learned about who you are as you're growing into adulthood. You may find yourself moulded to fit the clinical model of the paedophile. This isn't necessarily the case, of course, but again: talking here you may get some valuable information from paedophiles on experiences with therapy.

Personally I judge people on their actions and not on their feelings, and you will find on this forum many people (paedophiles and non-paedophiles) who share that sentiment, so welcome!
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Re: Ok.

Postby jasmin » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:04 pm

Kon, you can post in other forums as well and ask for advice from people, if you like. You can talk about anything here, I hope you enjoy the forums.

Let's try not to scare him out of trying to find a decent therapist, ok guys?
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Re: Ok.

Postby Alevi » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:25 pm

Heavens forbid, but let me just butt in here with some facts pertaining to teenage sexual attractions to kids, before this poor boy gets the impression that there's an inherent danger of him acting out and doing something bad just because he kind-of-likes the young ones.

Let's bring up what the DSM (The American Psychiatric Assosiation's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) says.

Pedohebephilic Disorder wrote:Current, Version 4:
The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.

Proposed revision for Version 5:
The person is at least age 18 years and at least five years older than the children in Criterion A or Criterion B.


In other words, if Kon is under 16 and living in America then hey what do you know, you get the "SANE"-stamp, a candy, and told to come back in a few years.
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Re: Ok.

Postby Blben » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:35 pm

If you are a pedophile there is one thing that you will have to get use to is society judging you and thinking that you will someday act out sexually with a child simply because you label yourself a pedophile and you are attracted to children. I have not acted out sexually with a child and nor am I ever going to do it, do you know why? Because I have self control and I know better, yet society doesn't think that this is true and that I will someday act upon my desires. Yet I guess society are the experts when it comes to MY pedophilia. If you get positive support then you will be fine, if you get negative support where people tell you that you are nothing and scum then leave those people and find good support where you can still be human.
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Re: Ok.

Postby Kon » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:15 pm

Thank you for moving it. I'm afraid school counselors will be next to useless. The one for my age and name range isn't a very understanding person, and would probably just tell my parents. Do you think just telling my parents I am deppressed would be suitable? I don't really know the good psychologists, or if there are any that deal with my problem but ill try and find one. I guess if you guys think it could prevent me from possibly abusing a child. I haven't considered actually doing anything that seriously yet. I guess really if anyone thinks it will help, ill try.
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Re: Ok.

Postby Alevi » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:26 pm

I think maybe you should just say that you worry that you are worrying too much and would like to find out if you are in any danger of developing obsessive compulsive disorder.

Because, well, you are latching on to this dangling carrot of a potential worry: "what if ... possibly 'abusing a child'".

And I think you should nip that unnecessary worry in the bud.

EDIT:
Let me just add one thing here.

I am concerned - especially if you live in the crazy land of America - that if you decide to broach this issue directly in therapy, you may end up finding yourself in the position of a sacrificial goat.

Your therapist may have bought into the BS of thinking that there is a danger of you acting out, and may tailor the therapy accordingly, with an emphasis of preventing you from acting out.

UN-fortunately, that means that he will condition you to thinking of yourself as a person with problems, a bad person, a danger to others, somebody who is not in control of himself.

That, and other related things, is extremely unhealthy, especially for such a young person as you, who are not quite as capable as adults of identifying and resisting manipulation and coercion.
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Re: Ok.

Postby Kon » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:17 pm

Alevi wrote:I think maybe you should just say that you worry that you are worrying too much and would like to find out if you are in any danger of developing obsessive compulsive disorder.

Because, well, you are latching on to this dangling carrot of a potential worry: "what if ... possibly 'abusing a child'".

And I think you should nip that unnecessary worry in the bud.

EDIT:
Let me just add one thing here.

I am concerned - especially if you live in the crazy land of America - that if you decide to broach this issue directly in therapy, you may end up finding yourself in the position of a sacrificial goat.

Your therapist may have bought into the BS of thinking that there is a danger of you acting out, and may tailor the therapy accordingly, with an emphasis of preventing you from acting out.

UN-fortunately, that means that he will condition you to thinking of yourself as a person with problems, a bad person, a danger to others, somebody who is not in control of himself.

That, and other related things, is extremely unhealthy, especially for such a young person as you, who are not quite as capable as adults of identifying and resisting manipulation and coercion.


"what if ... possibly 'abusing a child'". Well, I should have said this sooner but I was afraid of how people would respond. Basically, I have been considering the act more seriously, (I haven't done anything yet) and am kind of lost. It's not like I have a plan to go out and do it tomorrow, but I have actually started to weigh chances of getting caught and etc.. I'm fairly confident that I have control over my self right now, but a few people told me that this is how it starts. Although, I do have a problem with worrying. I'm not sure that that's enough to warrant therapy in my parents minds.
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Maybe *triggering*

Postby Alevi » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:44 am

Well I dunno.

I'm going to have to assume that a therapist would though, and that they are professional enough to distinguish between more-or-less-unfounded worries and genuine concerns.

But you should realize that mental issues can exhibit themselves in weird ways, and that it is possible that this about kids isn't all that much of a concern.

Why can't you just tell your parents that you want to see a therapist and that you don't want to talk about why?

EDIT:
Also, lot's of people get turned on by fantasizing about rape. It really doesn't in itself make one more of a potential rapist.

EDIT2:
Oh and another thing: "a few people told me that this is how it starts".
*edited* That's how you know you are talking to a real, genuine, certified IDIOT.

100% of all car accidents start by somebody thinking about putting the key in the ignition.
And yet, most driving does not result in accidents.
And call me crazy, but I don't think that one becomes more liable to get into an accident by recognizing that one isn't such a strong driver and needs to take that into account when driving.
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