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Re: I long to make a corpse my beloved

Postby Fengxian » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:41 am

manic666 wrote:Rape is to use against will, the body of the victim. A crime that repulses near everyone . To rape a person that is dead is a crime against nature not part of it. You can qoute from as many books as you like its not clever an its rather sad.To desicrate someone,s loved one , while they are dead, would render a bullet from me know ######6 problem.. THE END


Rape requires a victim to be alive. A corpse isn't alive and cannot suffer from any trauma, be it psychological or physical from sexual intercourse or other.
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Re: I long to make a corpse my beloved

Postby Sandra Larson » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:29 pm

EarlGreyDregs wrote:Am I the only one who read this and thought, "that's bloody romantic" ?


Nope, though I'd rather give a big sigh and say: "It's so romantic!" <3
And I walk up the hill
And I can't stand still
Till the day of our last rendez-vous
And the leaves turn red
And I bow my head
All my feelings they are with you
Where I Am - Where You Are
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Re: I long to make a corpse my beloved

Postby Sandra Larson » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:29 pm

GinaSmith wrote:That's not very intelligent argumentation, manic666, and certainly not constructive. You haven't managed to refute my position; your only response has been to blurt out a load of subjective diatribe. Let me highlight the weakness of your arguments:

1) 'Rape is to use against will, the body of the victim'.
Just as pedophilia is not synonymous with child abuse or sex with a minor, neither is necrophilia synonymous with sexual activity with a corpse. It refers to attraction (romantic, sexual). Furthermore, you're on thin ice, as the question that raises itself here is, if a person is dead, to what extent can he/she be deemed to possess 'will'?

2) 'A crime that repulses near everyone'. The idea of sex with men repulses many heterosexual men - does that make it wrong for a woman to sleep with a man? Halitosis is repulsive to most people. Should we imprison people with bad breath? The argument from generally accepted norms would have precluded women from getting the vote and homosexuals from greater acceptance. It's naïvely conservative.

3) 'crime against nature'. What is a crime against nature? 'Crime' is legal-speak, implying human codes. Are you not anthropomorphizing nature here? Nature is surely impartial. Besides, you've completely failed to present a case for necrophilia being outside of nature.

4) 'You can qoute from as many books as you like its not clever an its rather sad'. I only quoted the dictionary to back up my point. This is a clever thing to do. Sad is a subjective word - that's your opinion, but it smacks of sour grapes as you haven't displayed the intellectual armoury required to contend my points.

5) 'To desicrate someone,s loved one , while they are dead, would render a bullet from me know ######6 problem..' Somewhere in here there's a point that could be argued for a case against sex with the dead, but it's shrouded in spelling mistakes and anger. If you want to succeed in arguments you'll have to learn how to turn down the dimmer switch on the adrenal glands and turn up the dimmer switch upstairs.

6) 'THE END' Is this the most epigrammatic coup de grâce you can muster to deliver your 'argument'? Pretty artless.

You either haven't read my points or haven't understood them. Either way, they remain uncontested.


Thumbs up, I think even if I had made an attempt to write these arguments in my mother tongue, I wouldn't have succeeded in doing it so eloquently. I absolutely agree. Well, maybe that does not count... I am a necrophile.. :lol:
And I walk up the hill
And I can't stand still
Till the day of our last rendez-vous
And the leaves turn red
And I bow my head
All my feelings they are with you
Where I Am - Where You Are
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Re: I long to make a corpse my beloved

Postby HaxX » Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:02 pm

I still think about this car accident victim i fell for when i was 18. I cant even remember his name. It made me so upset to think about his family burying him, so i try not to think about it.

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Re: I long to make a corpse my beloved

Postby Graveyard76 » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:50 am

Fengxian wrote:Rape requires a victim to be alive. A corpse isn't alive and cannot suffer from any trauma, be it psychological or physical from sexual intercourse or other.


I've heard this argument many times, about a corpse being unable to suffer trauma etc.

It's irrelevant to my mind, and it boils down to the matter of respecting the human being. I'd never do anything to harm or desecrate somebody's corpse. A dead person is still a person to my mind, and they deserve to be treated with dignity.
"Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another." - The 7th Doctor.

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Re: I long to make a corpse my beloved

Postby ElKahn » Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:00 pm

I find it extremely romantic. Going to a grave to bring flowers to a dead woman because you are in love with her. I am not a necrophiliac but I find such things so romantic!
Love is always love no matter what. There is nothing such as "wrong love", love is never wrong no matter who loves who.
GinaSmith explained everything with a great class and intelligence.
Whatever exists in nature is natural, it is society and morals made by men that turn something into a wrpng or a right thing. There is nothing in nature such as "wrong and right", it is just made by men. And what is right for me could be wrong for someone else so there is no absolute truth but only many truths. It's all relative, not absolute.
Morals come especially from religion which implies an absolute truth, norms and codes told by a deity.
We cant deny that our world is still linked to religion and society acts basing morals on religious norms. Well, not everyone but the majority of people, although nowadays this seems to be weaker.

It's philosophy, people. Ever heard about Nietzsche or even ancient Greek philosophy called Sophism?
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Re: I long to make a corpse my beloved

Postby Graveyard76 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:19 am

Was Sophism an actual philosophy in itself? I gather they went a bit 'commercial' towards the end, and sold themselves out by appealing to popular viewpoints, which completely defeated the object of their existence.

They started out okay, and would probably have been reasonably fair to paraphiles in their early days, but by the end of their run, they went a bit like Daily Mail journos, or Guardian journos depending on who was paying them.

It's a shame that two millennia later, society is still badly in need of some sort of 'wisdom philosophers' to provoke some thought into the sheep-like masses, but in their place are tabloid columnists with varying political agendas that always make a bogeyman of some demographic or other.
"Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another." - The 7th Doctor.

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Re: I long to make a corpse my beloved

Postby notnamed555 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:32 pm

oh my god when you said that its not easy carrying a secret like that around I feel you I am a zoophile and I can barley go on thinking about it is not easy being deceitful to every person you meet its torture thank you for posting this I am able to think a bit more clearly about what you say although I may not totally agree with you I don't know you I can't ever feel what you feel for your loves so you changed my mind about a few things I have to research this I feel shame for what I am I am in love with a dolphin called Sydney she has offered many times to make our relationship physical but I can't cause its against the law I remember the first time I have these feelings I would look in the mirror and feel sick to my stomach I hope things work out between you and your beloved
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Re: I long to make a corpse my beloved

Postby Graveyard76 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:44 pm

Thank you, notnamed555. :)

Social anxiety is one of the biggest things that us paraphiles have to contend with, besides living with an attraction that we know is forbidden and/or wrong to pursue.

What have I changed your mind about? Most human beings have pretty much the same range of feelings and emotions, no matter what they're wired to be attracted to, whether that's dolphins, dead folks, living folks, teddy bears, or whatever. So don't you feel sick when you look in the mirror. You're no worse than I am, and nobody lucky enough to have only 'conventional' attractions can say they're any better.

It's who you are and what you do that makes you the person you are, not something beyond our conscious control like who we happen to fancy!
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Re: I long to make a corpse my beloved

Postby HaxX » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:44 am

I think that as paraphiles we over think sometimes, and that is what makes us feel dishonest when meeting people because we can't share that part of ourselves with the majority.
It would be nice to be more open, but more "normal" people also have things that they dont share readily. I can't ever remember shaking hands with someone ive just met and then have them blurt out that they like it when their partner rubs butter on their nipples and puts a dildo upp their butt. Sex of all kinds is still somewhat taboo to talk about, especially with casual social contacts.
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