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by cumulusjames » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:39 pm
I have just seen a scientific paper which proposes to use deep brain stimulation to "treat" people with paraphilias. This involves sticking electrodes into the bits of the brain that control sex drive in something straight out of A Clockwork Orange.
What does the forum think of this?
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by Mustelidae » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:12 pm
So the aim is to dull the sex drive, not alter what turns you on? If that is the case then it doesn't really make much sense unless it could be useful for people with a paraphilia who are considering chemical castration. A seemingly permanent result without the negative effects on the body?
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by cumulusjames » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:22 pm
No the aim as I understand it is to force neurosurgery to delete the bits of your brain responsible for sexual desire. We can imagine where the Americans would take this.
Not to mention the Russians and others who might use it on homosexuals.
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by Mustelidae » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:32 pm
I doubt removing people's sexual desire without their consent will ever fly in any free country.
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by cumulusjames » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:38 pm
Wanna bet? Chemical and physical castration do. They were doing penile plesmography on 10 yr olds in the US, they were forcing teens to do masturbatory satiation - a 15 yr old had his trousers forcibly lowered and told if he didn't do this he would go to prison. They tried to get a court order to forcibly injected drugs to give an erection to a 17 yr old so they could photo it.
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by Kirill » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:12 pm
Psychosurgery of paraphiles was performed in Germany.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7023416Where did you take scientific paper which proposes to use deep brain stimulationto "treat" paraphiles? Who are the authors of this paper? In what scientific journal this paper was published? Honestly, I don’t believe that this method could work.
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by cumulusjames » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:21 pm
The paper is not published yet. I have academic contacts so I got to see it early. For that reason I would not divulge the scourge until it is officially published.
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by Kirill » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:32 pm
Very interesting. I can’t wait to read this paper. Personally, I think that the only method that could work should be based on neuroplasticity (erotic plasticity) research. But unfortunately study of erotic plasticity is underdeveloped.
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by cumulusjames » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:40 pm
Of course if you have a paraphilia that is a part of who you are. Should it be for society to "modify" you at the core of your identity simply because it doesn't like it?
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by Kirill » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:25 pm
Of course society should not do it. But I think that developing scientific research in this area and developing evidence based and ethical treatment is appropriate. If society recognizes paraphilias as disorders than society should offer appropriate care (social, psychological and medical) to us comparable to care for people with autistic spectrum disorder. Especially that there is evidence that paraphilias are neurodevelopment disorders like ASD. I wouldn't refuse appropriate psychological support and social care if it will be available.
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