Safe pedo outlet? *may trigger*

cumulusjames wrote:

YouthRightsRadical wrote:I make use of lolicon images and comics and I write erotic fanfiction. Even wrote a chatbot for the purpose of cybersex.

Again just for the benefit of those in the UK, lolicon, shotacon and erotic fiction depicting sex with minors is illegal over here, and and image of a nude or semi nude under 18 can be prosecuted as an "indecent image".

But that explains why you are so comfortable compared to others since you at least have some outlet.

It probably also helps that I'm willing to break stupid laws and commit victimless crimes.

Fortunately, the laws in my jurisdiction do not consider text-based erotica or drawings to be a crime. But even if they did, I don't obey the law because it is the law. If it were outlawed here, I would disobey that law and consider myself entirely in the right for doing so.

For hobbyists, Daz studio and poser. Pros usually use way more expensive programs like autodesk maya or 3ds max. I use maya myself, but I often use daz3d Genesis 2 figures as a starting point of making humanoid characters.

Can you tell me what it is like using it? Is it illegal to create these graphics in the US? There are plenty of images far more sexual here that are legal. Is it helpful?

mrms99 wrote:For hobbyists, Daz studio and poser. Pros usually use way more expensive programs like autodesk maya or 3ds max. I use maya myself, but I often use daz3d Genesis 2 figures as a starting point of making humanoid characters.

Can you tell me what it is like using it? Is it illegal to create these graphics in the US? There are plenty of images far more sexual here that are legal. Is it helpful?

I find daz studio easy to learn, but I find programs easy to learn in general. You can find boatloads of free tutorials on youtube. The program and the base figures are free, the clothes, hair, and various shapes cost money, unless you can make them yourself like I can. You can pay for pose sets too.

This is daz3d youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyhW1x ... 5VA/videos

I don't really care about legality to be honest, I am an artist, and will not have my artwork censored by any government. I have posted plenty of controversial art on my deviantart page, and plenty of other places, no trouble so far.

Be damn careful about this stuff especially in the US where you have indefinite civil commitment for these kind of crimes.

My advice to those who value thier life and freedom is to stay away from CGI CP or naturist vids. My understanding is that CGI CP can be prosecuted every bit as harshly as real CP.

SkeptikalObserver wrote:I don't really care about legality to be honest, I am an artist, and will not have my artwork censored by any government. I have posted plenty of controversial art on my deviantart page, and plenty of other places, no trouble so far.

That's nice to hear the voice of courage and defiance for a change.

Hi,

To those above who have stated that erotic fiction featuring underage characters is illegal, would you please provide your statutory references for that? I know that fictional images with a realistic enough depiction of minors in a sexual situation is illegal (CJA 2003 I believe) but I can find no statutory basis for fictional writings. If there is such, would you please provide it?

Napoleon88 wrote:Hi,

To those above who have stated that erotic fiction featuring underage characters is illegal, would you please provide your statutory references for that? I know that fictional images with a realistic enough depiction of minors in a sexual situation is illegal (CJA 2003 I believe) but I can find no statutory basis for fictional writings. If there is such, would you please provide it?

Even fictional stories are classed as CP in the UK. There have been instances where the cases on UK paedos exposed have mentioned fiction as CP. But I couldn't tell you about the law on it. I know there are many gays into shotacon who have no idea they are breaking the law, laws on fiction and cartoons are not widely known. Also many, many people on twink sites do not realize they are technically coming across CP. I think there is a widespread concept that CP involves kids, I don't think a lot of people realize it includes a 17 yr old, or an 18yr old who looks young but can't be proven therefore an assumption could be made it is underage. When I was 18 I would have definitely looked possibly 16 on screen (especially since I am short).

Many guys have now gone to prison for owning the naturist films, I doubt one of them realized they were illegal.

Hi,

Ok, many cases may have mentioned fiction, but does it count as an arrestable/prosecutable offence is my question i.e. what is the statutory basis for the claim. If I have no vids but I have fiction only, does this count as illegal? I work in the law myself though a different area of it, so would be interested in some actual sources here.

Napoleon88 wrote:Hi,

Ok, many cases may have mentioned fiction, but does it count as an arrestable/prosecutable offence is my question i.e. what is the statutory basis for the claim. If I have no vids but I have fiction only, does this count as illegal? I work in the law myself though a different area of it, so would be interested in some actual sources here.

I don't know. I am very sure it could be prosecuted somehow if they had the will to do so. I should imagine you would likely get a caution and couple of years on the register or something, it's highly doubtful you could go to prison for that alone, but I would not be surprised.

What you have to realize is these laws are being stretched to encompass anything that might possibly show you might possibly have once had a sexual thought about anyone under 18. I point back to the matter of the naturist videos, the company was raided once and nothing happened because it did not meet the strict criteria for CP, so they went away and worked at it and worked damn hard to prosecute it as CP.

I can only say that anything, even a story is CP if it depicts sex with anyone under 18.

The UK version of queer as folk is fictional CP since it depicts a 20 something have sex with a 15 yr old. But no one goes to prison for that, not even the writer who has technically written CP. So I don't know.

I hope I don't get banned for this, but I live in a state where shotacon and lolicon are illegal. Even though I still look at them, it's scary. Not everywhere in the United States is shotacon and lolicon legal. Actually, lolicon and shotacon seem very legally confusing.

We're not supposed to discuss illegal activity, so I hope I'm not in trouble.