Surgical Help for Paedophiles *TW*

It's great that you want to heal yourself. It's easy, I've done it. You can do it. Just think about this: how can you desire to be in a relationship with someone who will never feel about you the same way you feel about her/him? You deserve someone who loves you back, you deserve to be loved. The kids don't want to be with pedophiles. And you should respect their feelings. If you really care about the kids, if you really consider yourself a good person that cares about other people's feelings, you have to stop harassing. It's rude and disrespectful for the chidren. Be a better person, don't do rude attitudes.

BiB wrote:

YouthRightsRadical wrote:The OP overestimates the level of understanding we currently have of the human brain. Psychosurgery is something we've been trying since the 1880s. We frankly don't understand the brain well enough to be able to reliably reorient a person's sexuality. The best we can do surgically is destroy a person's sexuality. And as others have indicated, we have more success there using drugs than surgical tools, and the target is not the brain.

Oh exactly, this I would add. That for pedophilia this is not yet a clear mechanism, so it must be perfected.

YouthRightsRadical wrote:If we understood the brain well enough to perform the kind of psychosurgery you're describing, we could perform basically flawless mind control.

No, it works, in a lot of issues but not in each case because it depends on the skill of doctor, in the tenacity of patient, and on variables of any case, because each man and story is a challenge, a covert route and there must be also the will and real desire, open cooperation of patient so its not a mind control. Very simplified its discovering the tangle, crux of the problem that could not be elaborate at the time and resulted in the pattern beneath actual perceptions.

Do you even understand what psychosurgery is?

BiB wrote:

YouthRightsRadical wrote:While I realize it's frightening, looking forward to a life of being hated, and of never having the kind of life we are told all our lives to expect, trying to conform to social expectations is going to hurt you far more than learning to accept yourself as you are. You know the old saying about square pegs and round holes.

*trigger?* (..? I dont know if have to put this, bah)
Dear, its not you as some alternative, poor marginalized from society (and all the dreadful pedo-rethoric) whose problem is how to live within these rules, the problem is the risk related to(if anything) and *your* real problem is that you associate something out of child dimension to it, some dangerous for them to them, and even if only in your mind its not a good thing, clearly.

Could you please put that in english? I was only able to get the barest gyst of what you wrote here. Only enough to work out you were trying to be insulting to me.

YouthRightsRadical wrote:Do you even understand what psychosurgery is?

So I was not attentive in your last phrase but you didnt understand anything I said. Infact I spoken all the time about psychotherapy.

YouthRightsRadical wrote:
Could you please put that in english? I was only able to get the barest gyst of what you wrote here. Only enough to work out you were trying to be insulting to me.

Mh, do you mean gist? No, I dont have any attention to you for wanting insult you, Im dealing with bigger concept. If the text is not clear I cant hope, sorry.

BiB wrote:

YouthRightsRadical wrote:Do you even understand what psychosurgery is?

So I was not attentive in your last phrase but you didnt understand anything I said. Infact I spoken all the time about psychotherapy.

Psychosurgery is what the OP was talking about. Cutting into the brain and physically recongifuring it's structures in order to bring about the desired mental states. As I said, if we had sufficient understanding of the brain to do that, we would also have perfect mind control, because that is what is required to acheave the OP's stated goal.

BiB wrote:

YouthRightsRadical wrote:
Could you please put that in english? I was only able to get the barest gyst of what you wrote here. Only enough to work out you were trying to be insulting to me.

Mh, do you mean gist? No, I dont have any attention to you for wanting insult you, Im dealing with bigger concept. If the text is not clear I cant hope, sorry.

I realize you aren't a native english speaker, but that section was aweful. I'm sorry to hear you are unable to rephrase it in a way that will make even the tiniest amount of sense. But I did understand enough to know you're calling out me and my political camp.

YouthRightsRadical wrote:

BiB wrote:

YouthRightsRadical wrote:Do you even understand what psychosurgery is?

So I was not attentive in your last phrase but you didnt understand anything I said. Infact I spoken all the time about psychotherapy.

Psychosurgery is what the OP was talking about. Cutting into the brain and physically recongifuring it's structures in order to bring about the desired mental states. As I said, if we had sufficient understanding of the brain to do that, we would also have perfect mind control, because that is what is required to acheave the OP's stated goal.

Yes, I understood that but you did quoted me.
I answered that surgery/or chemistry is not possible because there is not a good area and bad area in our mind but only planty of microinterconnections that compose our thinking and feeling and then I continued in what you quoted saying that psychotherapy can act.

BiB wrote:

YouthRightsRadical wrote:
I realize you aren't a native english speaker, but that section was aweful. I'm sorry to hear you are unable to rephrase it in a way that will make even the tiniest amount of sense. But I did understand enough to know you're calling out me and my political camp.

Political camp? Oh yes, maybe you are in one of that States where there is a party.
I said the problem is of course not the poor pedophile that live in a society with a lot of restrictions, obviously it is that he make connections (even if only in his mind) between something dangerous and wrong for children and the same children, so he has something wrong in his mind. I specified this is his..poor problem, not society.

I don't think you understood a word I said there. So, I'm just going to cut this conversation short.

YouthRightsRadical wrote:
While I realize it's frightening, looking forward to a life of being hated, and of never having the kind of life we are told all our lives to expect, trying to conform to social expectations is going to hurt you far more than learning to accept yourself as you are. You know the old saying about square pegs and round holes.

Its very simple here even if I dont speak well. And I think you can understand me as well (although my English).
Your problem is not "trying to conform to social expectations" but having a healthy mind with healthy thoughts.

This is my last

If I could parse what you said in the previous post, I would have responded to its content in detail. Since I could not parse that content, you got no such detailed response.

And no, his problem really is trying to conform to social expectations. There is nothing wrong or unhealthy with him having sexual thoughts or feelings about young children.

YouthRightsRadical wrote:
And no, his problem really is trying to conform to social expectations. There is nothing wrong or unhealthy with him having sexual thoughts or feelings about young children.

So I think we can understand each own.
If I think something very bad and wrong, for example, against animals, something that hurt them (its the same if I have sex with a little child, I hurt him, for this is a bad thing) I am insane. If society says: Ehy you are wrong, what a horrible thing!-the society is not the problem.
Me I am wrong.

You are indeed wrong. Fortunately, the rest of us can tell the difference between thinking things and doing the things we're thinking about.