What makes a non-exclusive pedophile?

TaintedAgria wrote:I guess it means that you're also able to be attracted to secondary sex characteristics... unlike me..

Technically, that would make me a pedophile, right? .. What is your attraction?

anonymousman89 wrote:Technically, that would make me a pedophile, right? .. What is your attraction?

I'm very attracted to DFC, or flat chested women. Totally flat chests, the bigger someone's breasts are, the less my body responds to them. A cups are too big for me. I'm attracted to a totally flat, prepubescent chest... pretty much exclusively.

I guess on some level I could be attracted to chests, I don't believe in fat shaming and I'm attracted to plus sized people, too. I try to be open minded, and being attracted to being skinny isn't a sexual orientation. But when a woman's breasts are much bigger than her stomach or other body fat, I'm not attracted to it. My body doesn't respond to estrogenic fat. And curvaceous bodies.

And I'm not attracted to an hourglass figure. It's never been sexy to me and my body has never responded to it. I'm not attracted to the "waist-to-hip" ratio I'm supposed to be. And I'm not attracted to post-pubescant hip-types. I'm not attracted to wide hips and I'm attracted to prepubescent hips.

And I'm just not attracted to any signs of fertility, or secondary sex characteristics.

And.. I'm not sure what a pedophiles is, and if I am one. Sorry..

TaintedAgria wrote:

anonymousman89 wrote:Technically, that would make me a pedophile, right? .. What is your attraction?

I'm very attracted to DFC, or flat chested women. Totally flat chests, the bigger someone's breasts are, the less my body responds to them. A cups are too big for me. I'm attracted to a totally flat, prepubescent chest... pretty much exclusively.

I guess on some level I could be attracted to chests, I don't believe in fat shaming and I'm attracted to plus sized people, too. I try to be open minded, and being attracted to being skinny isn't a sexual orientation. But when a woman's breasts are much bigger than her stomach or other body fat, I'm not attracted to it. My body doesn't respond to estrogenic fat. And curvaceous bodies.

And I'm not attracted to an hourglass figure. It's never been sexy to me and my body has never responded to it. I'm not attracted to the "waist-to-hip" ratio I'm supposed to be. And I'm not attracted to post-pubescant hip-types. I'm not attracted to wide hips and I'm attracted to prepubescent hips.

And I'm just not attracted to any signs of fertility, or secondary sex characteristics.

And.. I'm not sure what a pedophiles is, and if I am one. Sorry..

Thanks for sharing. No need to apologize, I'm not here to judge.. I have peculiar fantasies about 5-7 year old girls or girls that I can carry, not younger than 4 years old tho.. I don't mind if they don't have wide hips, as long as they seem petite to me.. I've read that sexual abuse to oneself as a child plays a huge factor in these attractions?..

I can tell you with some confidence I was not sexually abused as a child, and I'm definitely a pedophile.

My age of attraction is 0-10. I also don't like the signs of puberty. I can occasionally be attracted to women who are already through the process, but the fun-house mirror business that ends up happening to a girl's body during puberty tends to turn me off.

I'm not exclusively attracted to children (including infants and toddlers), but I am primarily attracted to them. While I find some adult women attractive, it's never really been a strong enough force that I've put any effort into dating. As a result, I haven't had any sexual relationships with anyone, and it feels like it wouldn't be worth the effort to become romantically or sexually involved with an adult. Meanwhile, I feel like I could put a lot of energy into the process of trying to get involved with a little girl (if it weren't for the obvious reasons that isn't an option).

I sometimes wonder if my fleeting attraction to some adult women isn't more a byproduct of social conditioning, being taught by the culture around me that's what I should find attractive. I can't really say for sure.

skeleton-countess wrote:

Mustelidae wrote:Sorry I just lumped the ephebophilia in with attraction to adults since it is natural. Hebephilia is quite natural too considering we should be attracted to young, fertile people. Some debate whether the term hebephile should even exist because of that but some also debate whether homosexuality is natural also.

If I could have one wish, it would be for people to stop trying to make claims about what's "natural" and what's not natural.
My second wish would be for people to stop obsessing about reproduction and fertility. That's not what life is about. Life can be about whatever you want it to be. Nature doesn't give a s**t whether we reproduce or not.

I didn't mean any disrespect. I myself am a non-exclusive pedophile attracted to women and boys aged 11-15. I was claiming that being attracted to older pubescent children was normal biologically but I wasn't saying whether homosexuality was natural or not just to be clear. I was trying to show that he had no reason to stress over his ephebophilia.

Just because something is called unnatural doesn't invalidate it. Mankind has come very far from the hunter-gatherer times. The signs of fertility and puberty are hard-wired in us to be attractive so that we are more likely to reproduce. Considering our biology and instincts and the fragile nature of ecosystems, it sounds like she does want us to reproduce.

Pedophilia is now considered a sexual orientation but as soon as you act on it you have a mental disorder. That sounds unnatural to me and I'm fine with calling my own sexual attraction unnatural. It doesn't hold any negative connotations with me. Our current society does a lot of 'unnatural' things.

You're personifying an amoral scientific concept. That's not a good idea.

You were kind of the last person I wanted to disappoint. Could you please elaborate?

Mustelidae wrote:You were kind of the last person I wanted to disappoint. Could you please elaborate?

Nature doesn't think. So it doesn't care whether you and I live to reproduce or die tomorrow.

I'll tell her you said that!

More to the point, nature doesn't care about ecological nitches, nor is it particularly troubled by dying species or collapsing ecosystems. Mass die-offs happen with nearly clockwork regularity on this planet.

When a trait hinders reproduction, that trait is what dies off. It typically doesn't take the whole species with it as some sort of quasi-divine lesson for the other species.

The reason that the reproductive instinct is as strong as it is has nothing to do with any sort of governing intelligence. It's a simple product of the fact that living things that don't reproduce don't pass on their traits to subsequent generations, causing any trait that hindered reproduction to be lost over time.

Now, if you look past the very simplified version above, you also need to consider that fitness in groups is very different from the fitness of isolated loners. If you can ensure the ofspring of your siblings survive, for example, even at the cost of your own ability to reproduce, your traits aren't necessarily lost.

Even as hunter-gatherers, humans have always been a social species. Group-based selection pressures mean more to social species than individually selfish traits. And what more important group-based trait could there be than affection for the tribe's children?

Human children are incredibly frail and needy for longer than most other species even live. They require a frankly insane expenditure of resources in order to survive to adulthood, and something has to motivate the adults in the area to spend those resources. If there weren't such adults, we wouldn't have the extremely slow maturation process we do. And without that slowed maturation process, our ability to pass on culture, which has been the key to everything extraordinary the human animal has ever accomplished, wouldn't be possible.

Unnatural things don't exist. The laws of nature aren't enforced. It's simply impossible to break them.