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by cumulusjames » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:31 am
Mustelidae wrote:I'm not disgusted by my attractions but the thought of one year over my 'limit' of 15 disgusts me. What does that say in terms of repression?
Many 18 yr olds are virtually hairless and boyish, as I was until my early 20's. Why not an 18 yr old?
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by Mustelidae » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:48 am
Well I guess it would have to depend on how much they fit what I said I was attracted to.
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by Endymion » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:10 pm
Mustelidae wrote:Is it possible that I am in denial of an attraction to adults males and this age range allows me to express some form of that as at least a minor emotional release without fully accepting my own homosexuality?
Is it possible that teleiophilic males (those primarily attracted to adults) are in denial of their attraction to this 11-15 range? I'd find that at least as credible as the above.
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by Mustelidae » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:29 am
Thanks. That's a bit comforting actually. You've said before that you're a hebephile, unless I read it wrong. Could you possibly explain why girls? I was angered at first by the OP's question as I feel the same can be said for young girls. Which is why I copied his original post and replaced boy with girl to try and highlight how weird his question was. Why not someone older? You could really ask that of any pedophile or hebephile not just ones attracted to young pubescent boys.
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by cumulusjames » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:07 am
Mustelidae wrote:It strikes me, that any description of orientation can only include I like males or I like females. It also strikes me that any physical sensations one might get from sex are as easily obtained from a girlish 18 yr old as they are a 13 yr old.
So my question is why girls? What is it you can get from someone under 18 that you could not get from someone over that age? What emotional needs are being met? What are the psychological drivers towards underage girls vs simple heterosexual acts?
^^thread is to discuss boys, hebaphilia/pederasty really. What can we learn about such attractions?
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by Mustelidae » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:17 am
I know, I'm sorry. My reaction was probably due to my insecurity about the subject. I was just trying to highlight how someone explaining their attraction to young girls would give an answer to your question. Why young girls and not a girly 18 year old? Would an answer to that question not be useful?
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by cumulusjames » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:20 am
Mustelidae wrote:I know, I'm sorry. My reaction was probably due to my insecurity about the subject. I was just trying to highlight how someone explaining their attraction to young girls would give an answer to your question. Why young girls and not a girly 18 year old? Would an answer to that question not be useful?
Not really helpful here. I am trying to get at the prospect pedarasty (homosexual attraction to boys 12 - 18) might be a phenomenon distinct from paedophilia.
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by sprooglestrewft » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:40 am
The question I've always had for boy attracted pedophiles has been to those who are attracted only to adult females and male children. If someone is attracted to both children and female adults how then do they have such a strong preference for male children? That strikes me as odd and I have never gotten a straight forward answer other than "I'm not sure". I am very curious.
I can only imagine that there is a large percentage of heterosexual men out there who are attracted to females for their physical assets but are spiritually or emotionally attracted to males. Perhaps that is why those who prefer prepubescent children who are nearly physical identical to children of the opposite sex often prefer the same sex.
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by cumulusjames » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:58 am
I should imagine heterosexual males attracted to pubescent boys only are repressing homosexual attractions. A 13 yr old boy is male, but not a man. The soft skin, often pretty facial features, petit frame - it's gay without being gay?
Which does nothing to explain me, since I was in gay nightclubs and sleeping with men of all ages.
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by Mustelidae » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:05 am
Sorry I completely missed your point then. Perhaps I was looking for an excuse to get all this off my chest. I'm fairly certain the Wikipedia page for pederasty makes a distinction between pederasty and pedophilia or at least suggests some possible reasons for them not both being present in a person.
As for an explanation why it is just boys while I'm also attracted to adult females. Perhaps it is like what James (Can I call you James?) has said. It may perhaps be that we are repressing our homosexuality but it is too hard for us to fully repress it so we are attracted to males that still show some feminine qualities so we can at least partly accept it.
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