Our partner

Giving a voice to necrophiles

Paraphilias message board, open discussion, and online support group.
Forum rules
================================================

The Paraphilias Forum is now closed for new posts. It is against the Forum Rules to discuss paraphilias as the main topic of a post anywhere at PsychForums.

================================================

You are entering a forum that contains discussions of a sexual nature, some of which are explicit. The topics discussed may be offensive to some people. Please be aware of this before entering this forum.

This forum is intended to be a place where people can support each other in finding healing and healthy ways of functioning. Discussions that promote illegal activity will not be tolerated. Please note that this forum is moderated, and people who are found to be using this forum for inappropriate purposes will be banned. Psychforums works hard to ensure that this forum is law abiding. Moderators will report evidence of illegal activity to the police.

Giving a voice to necrophiles

Postby ElKahn » Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:44 pm

This is from one of my blogs.
Many pedophiles here talk in defense of pedophilia. As necrophilia is my primary paraphilia (it turned out to be primary), and as necrophiles are a minority here, I thought it would be nice to share it and give a voice to necrophiles.

Necrophilia stereotypes
There are tons of stereotypes and misconceptions about my paraphilia. One of them, probably the most recurrent one is that we are killers, or potential killers. Where does this misconception come from? People think we would kill someone just to have sex with their corpse afterwards. There is nothing more stupid than this. Think about it. I want you people to think about it for one second, all of you people who are non-necrophiles, and non-paraphiles in general: would you kidnap someone just to have sex with them? The answer is no, unless you are a psychopath. Nobody in their right mind would do such thing. So, why shouldn't it apply to necrophiles? Why would you think we would actually kill a human being for sex?

And now comes the most interesting part, which is also the most difficult part to understand for all the nons.
I'm talking about exclusive necrophiles, that is, people who are exclusively attracted to the dead.

The logic behind it is: if the definition of an exclusive necrophile is "someone who's exclusively attracted to dead people", which means that they are not sexually or romantically interested in living people, not even one bit, what would determine their choice of the potential lover to kill? Why would an exclusive necrophile kill Person X instead of Person Y just to have sex with them? What would lead them to do that and choose a specific person? Attraction? How? How is that possible, if they only like dead people?

Non-exclusive ones now, which is my group. As non-exclusives, we're attracted to living people too. Why would we want to kill someone if we can have sex with them while they're alive? But that’s not the point. That’s not the reason why necrophiles don’t kill people just to have sex with them.


The bottom line is: we (necrophiles) are not killers. Period. That's the only explanation for this. See? It's not complicated. Killers and necrophiles are not synonyms. Stop lumping us in with killers. Stop comparing us to Jeffrey Dahmer or Ed Gein (who didn't even have sex with corpses). Stop demonizing us. How do you stop this? Simple. Educate yourself. Start talking to real necrophiles, and not gore fetishists or other people like that, or people who claim they know $#%^ about necrophilia when they're not even necrophiles.

Joseph
Image
ElKahn
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 3811
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 1:18 am
Local time: Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:47 pm
Blog: View Blog (9)


ADVERTISEMENT

Re: Giving a voice to necrophiles

Postby Graveyard76 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:53 pm

Thank you, ElK!

It's an important myth/misunderstanding to dispel.

Killers like Dahmer, Nilsen etc, are not necrophiliacs. They're sadists of sorts, and they did what they did as an ultimate means of control and domination over their victims, who they were attracted to as LIVING people.

That seems fairly straight-forward and easy to understand from my perspective, but to the layman who doesn't think about these things in much depth, they're people who have had sex with corpses, so they must be necrophiliacs.

There's a possible scenario, wherein a non-exclusive (and for the sake of argument - evil) necrophile might begin a relationship with a living person, and then decide he/she would prefer them if they were dead, but I haven't heard of a real-life case where it sounds to me like that's the motivating factor. Both Dahmer and Nilsen were both very insecure, lonely bastards, motivated by control, and stopping their victims from leaving them. Murder was a means to control people who they were attracted to in life. They didn't go out and seek dead people, which is what a necrophile would have done. They sought living people, then exerted the ultimate form of dominance and control onto them.

When I like a living person, I like them as a living person. I don't want them to die, or even to imagine them as being dead. A dead person and a living person are as different as chalk and cheese to me, and pretty much every necrophile I've spoken to says much the same. I find it hard to imagine even the most callous of necrophiles going to the trouble and risk of killing somebody in order to obtain a corpse. There's a million easier ways, and I doubt there's a necrophile alive who hasn't thought of at least half of them at some point in their lives!
"Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another." - The 7th Doctor.

* * * TRIGGER WARNING * * *
User avatar
Graveyard76
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 3818
Joined: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:50 pm
Local time: Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:47 am
Blog: View Blog (10)

Re: Giving a voice to necrophiles

Postby ElKahn » Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:51 pm

Graveyard76 wrote:
When I like a living person, I like them as a living person. I don't want them to die, or even to imagine them as being dead. A dead person and a living person are as different as chalk and cheese to me, and pretty much every necrophile I've spoken to says much the same.

I feel the same way, Graveyard. It's like comparing oranges to apples. Totally different and yeah I agree and relate to what you said.
Image
ElKahn
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 3811
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 1:18 am
Local time: Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:47 pm
Blog: View Blog (9)

Re: Giving a voice to necrophiles

Postby sprooglestrewft » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:40 pm

ElKahn wrote:The logic behind it is: if the definition of an exclusive necrophile is "someone who's exclusively attracted to dead people", which means that they are not sexually or romantically interested in living people, not even one bit, what would determine their choice of the potential lover to kill? Why would an exclusive necrophile kill Person X instead of Person Y just to have sex with them? What would lead them to do that and choose a specific person? Attraction? How? How is that possible, if they only like dead people?


I agree that it's ridiculous to conflate necrophiles with murderers but this part did pique my curiosity. I always assumed that necrophiles would have some idea about whether a currently living person would make an ideal partner once they die or if they die at the necrophiles preferred age of death.

I wonder how many necrophiles really do care what a person is like before they die. Also, is there physical attraction to fresh corpses but no physical attraction to the same person when they were alive? That seems odd to me that someone suddenly becomes physically attractive once they die, but I suppose it makes some sense if I consider my own physical preference for prepubescent girls over boys despite their physical similarities.
sprooglestrewft
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 322
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:50 am
Local time: Tue Aug 12, 2025 5:47 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Giving a voice to necrophiles

Postby Rinkusu » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:41 am

Great post, ElKahn. Very important that misconceptions don't go uncorrected.
Rinkusu
Consumer 5
Consumer 5
 
Posts: 128
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:04 am
Local time: Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:47 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Giving a voice to necrophiles

Postby ElKahn » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:36 am

sprooglestrewft wrote:I wonder how many necrophiles really do care what a person is like before they die.

In my case, that doesn't matter. If I find a corpse attractive I find them attractive because they're dead.
sprooglestrewft wrote:Also, is there physical attraction to fresh corpses but no physical attraction to the same person when they were alive?

It can be possible, yes. Even if a corpse is fresh it still has unique features that a living body doesn't have. People look different when they are dead, even when they are fresh corpses. That's the way I see it.
sprooglestrewft wrote:That seems odd to me that someone suddenly becomes physically attractive once they die, but I suppose it makes some sense if I consider my own physical preference for prepubescent girls over boys despite their physical similarities.

To me, a woman can become attractive or even more attractive once she dies. As I said, death changes the way someone looks.
Image
ElKahn
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 3811
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 1:18 am
Local time: Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:47 pm
Blog: View Blog (9)

Re: Giving a voice to necrophiles

Postby ElKahn » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:01 am

Rinkusu wrote:Great post, ElKahn. Very important that misconceptions don't go uncorrected.

Thank you, Rinkusu.
Image
ElKahn
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 3811
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 1:18 am
Local time: Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:47 pm
Blog: View Blog (9)

Re: Giving a voice to necrophiles

Postby Gemini_Incarnate » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:22 am

Wow. I never made that connection before now. I guess I always figured that a freshly killed corpse would be too messy for you guys. XD

Besides, in order to have a love of death, you kind of have to have a respect for life, do you not?
Alters:


Levi [INFP]
*Meow* ^^
Aaron [ESTP]
"Live and let live, lest bigotry be the death of us all."
Gemini_Incarnate
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 386
Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:18 am
Local time: Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:47 am
Blog: View Blog (4)

Re: Giving a voice to necrophiles

Postby skeleton-countess » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:29 am

ElKahn wrote:
sprooglestrewft wrote:I wonder how many necrophiles really do care what a person is like before they die.

In my case, that doesn't matter. If I find a corpse attractive I find them attractive because they're dead.
sprooglestrewft wrote:Also, is there physical attraction to fresh corpses but no physical attraction to the same person when they were alive?

It can be possible, yes. Even if a corpse is fresh it still has unique features that a living body doesn't have. People look different when they are dead, even when they are fresh corpses. That's the way I see it.
sprooglestrewft wrote:That seems odd to me that someone suddenly becomes physically attractive once they die, but I suppose it makes some sense if I consider my own physical preference for prepubescent girls over boys despite their physical similarities.

To me, a woman can become attractive or even more attractive once she dies. As I said, death changes the way someone looks.

Also, let's add the tactile differences. I like the coldness and the way dead people feel. To me specifically, body heat is a turn-off.
And the difference in smell too, which I like.
~ "Nothing happened to me...I happened." ~
skeleton-countess
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 2196
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:40 pm
Local time: Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:47 am
Blog: View Blog (4)

Re: Giving a voice to necrophiles

Postby skeleton-countess » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:57 am

Also I thought I'd better talk about this part since spooglestrewft asked about it and I'm exclusive:

And now comes the most interesting part, which is also the most difficult part to understand for all the nons.
I'm talking about exclusive necrophiles, that is, people who are exclusively attracted to the dead.

The logic behind it is: if the definition of an exclusive necrophile is "someone who's exclusively attracted to dead people", which means that they are not sexually or romantically interested in living people, not even one bit, what would determine their choice of the potential lover to kill? Why would an exclusive necrophile kill Person X instead of Person Y just to have sex with them? What would lead them to do that and choose a specific person? Attraction? How? How is that possible, if they only like dead people?


He asked,
I always assumed that necrophiles would have some idea about whether a currently living person would make an ideal partner once they die or if they die at the necrophiles preferred age of death.

The way it works for me is that I barely even notice living people or think about whether they're attractive or not. To me, living people are very blah and none of them particularly catch my interest. So I don't know how I would even go about deciding which of them would make an ideal partner, haha, no one really sticks out in my mind. And when I interact with living people, obviously, I'm not thinking about sex with them, so the thought of evaluating their attractiveness just doesn't cross my mind.
Living people are very boring to me, so it would be hard for me to go about picking a specific one, but dead people are all unique and interesting. That's the way I feel about it.

Also, goddamn Jeffrey Dahmer! My parents thought that was what all necrophiles were like, and they said they were afraid I'd end up like him :roll:
~ "Nothing happened to me...I happened." ~
skeleton-countess
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 2196
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:40 pm
Local time: Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:47 am
Blog: View Blog (4)

Next

Return to Paraphilias Forum




  • Related articles
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 93 guests