nevermind :)

You've compleatly missed the point lad.

Now i know your sharp as a whip and all. With knowing how to spell urges and such. But your and idiot

Google erges, or dictionary erges.....you'll find its commonly used dispite not being correct. A common and generally accepted error not quite as dramatic as you make it appear. By the by we are all sick people trying to get well.

And, FYI, I am in contact with Miss Nobody by way of PM

Thats nice.

I support her fully in her quest for acceptance

There is no acceptance, people who pray of children will never be accepted. Its not an acceptable condition. And its infact counter productive to accept it as your own condition. I assume your rather further damaging miss.nobody rather then helping her.....or perhaps your getting off on it in some way.

and not ridicule, as is the case for her on this forum.

Would you like some cheese with your whine?.

We have only asked questions trying to understand. You cannot help anyone if you dont understand them. This ridicule is in your mind. If you have such great issues with this i'm sure there other site you may find more accepting to your condition.

Finally, don't forget one thing folks; we are all sick people try to get well. That's the main reason we are all here. Otherwise, this forum is just a medium for finger-pointing.

Wow, your very insightful. Thank you for sharing that with the class. I know you havent been around much, but i do know you've tried to lure atleast one person into private pm on MSN before. The girl from thunder bay. A 16 year old girl from thunder bay by a 41 year old(1965) ?. Pedophile. Hmmm, i wonder why you are here.

She's the one who had brought this to my attention after reading you initial posts on this site (you remember the one's where me and verty tried to help you).

So why dont you flutter away and try and refrain from drawing attention to yourself by pointing out my spelling errors. Believe me if you really want my undivided attention i'll give it to you but i dont think you do.

There is no acceptance, people who pray of children will never be accepted. Its not an acceptable condition.

You are right, it is not an acceptable condition. I fully get that.But so is a person who does hard drugs, or somebody who abuses his loved ones. It all falls into the same category, and the people behind it should be accepted in order to get the help needed.

So what you're trying to say is that all ''pedophiles'' are hopeless individuals that should never be accepted or helped.
That really shows how closed minded our society is now days, very sad. You cannot put yourself in a mental patient's head, because chances are you will never understand what is like for them, i am talking about judging others conditions without ever experiencing it. All you can do is support with help, and most of all be acceptant of those who most need it.

I wouldnt link substance abuse to a psychosexual disorder.

Your not mentally ill your morally ill.

My own PERSONAL opinion would be to take those who act and give then some form of slow castration or, clitorectomy for the fairer sex. Remove every appendage in its alphabetical order or something like that.

Those who recognize themselves as sick and seek help i have nothing against.

No i cant recall saying ALL pedophiles are hopeless or shouldnt be helped. But there shouldnt be any acceptance for the condition by society or the individual, thats counter productive. once you accept it you can find yourself becoming at peace with it.

miss.nobody wrote:

Why are you so defensive when we ask you what you did that was acting out, was there more to the hugs and snuggles?

Why?. Wouldn't you get ''defensive'' if somebody threw the word mollestation in your face! I am not here to prove myself to anybody, i am here to try to change my sexual prespective.Wich has the least to do with my past.

You seem reluctant to go into detail, so there is something 'awkward' about it, yet at the same time you needed to include it in your initial post.

The event is important and people ask about it.

I think you should at least talk about it with someone, a therapist maybe. You are getting help? I think you will need it, because the way I see it you'll be troubled by your erges until
A) the day you die, or
B) you find a 'cure'

Professional help seems desirable because you'll either be (A) struggling with these erges for a loooooong time or (B) going through some major changes/therapy.

To JamieJ23,

First off, I don't have an MSN account. Secondly, I was born in 1967. Thirdly, anyone can set up an account with the numbers 1965 or and pretend to be anyone. And finally, I am not into luring people anywhere.

I appreciate your help earlier to my own posts. What upset me was the way Ms Nobody was been replied to. For example: she was accused of molesting someone which she totally denys. I

t is not nice living with these feelings all the time, and so I think I was expecting some kind of understanding or something - that's all.

I am going to leave this forum and try to join one that understands people like me more.

Regards...

Guys I'm going to give out a warning here to you please if you guys are going to argue at all back and forth this will be closed.

I have asked member's numerous time to keep fights off the open forums and in PMs. This goes for everyone.

A disagreement is fine on the sites, but if there is bickering constantly it needs to stop.

This post is being monitored closely by the admin and the mods here.

If anyone needs to say something PERSONAL to someone else that is unrelated to this topic to miss. nobody please do it over pms.

Well i'd like to apologise then for my personal opinions of how active pedophiles should be treated. Perhaps it was to strong....or subconciously threatning.

Most arguments seem to involve me know a days so i'll give it a rest.

Glvr1965 you stick around if you have something to offer. Or if something can be offered to you.

I agree with sadgurl,
This thread had caused some members to be negative towards this condition, and mostly gave hopelessness and unaccepting responds.I here support everyone, because there is a reason why each person is here.And it is to get support, no matter how bad the situation may be, you always hope for that bright light at the end of the tunnel, to become a clear mind. I didn't start this topic for it to evolve like this, is really a shame.I don't feel like ever discussing this topic again in help forums, because it seems like all people do is look down on it. They're ego perhaps?

Miss.nobody,

Have you seen a therapist or anything? I think you might benefit from it more as they ARE there to help you. Pedofilia is wrong but you want help, you came here and thats got to be hard! Have you kept this to yourself till now? If so you havnt got a great responce from the others.
I dont know if the thearpy is going to help you because as I said to glrv, its like telling me I cant be attracted to men.
When did this all start? sorry if you said but I had a quick read of this forum.

Sadgurl,

I would like to thank you for your intervention on this topic.

JamieJ23, no hard feelings; and I would like to apologies for my comments over spellings etc. I have a big ego, which needs to be tamed now and again.

One of the reasons I joined this forum was to get perspectives form people who were not paedophiles.

I am active in a couple of Girllover discussion forums where I get complete understanding, but sometimes that can get a bit boring, and I just wanted to talk to regular folk, here on these boards, about their general attitudes etc., to get a more objective comment on the subject of paedophilia. And to be fair to you guys, it has been generally sympathetic overall, given the topic.

Finally for now, I am in therapy for my attractions, and I have to say it has been a great help. I am starting to see things about me that I never knew existed before - both good and not so good. Things for example like emotions etc. While it might never cure me, at least it will make my life as a person with these issues, a little more bearable.

Regards to all.