cop this wrote:It doesn't surprise me that many - ctithe, rainbowstar, and probably YRR amongst others - will express such views.
Since I'm being called out explicitly with this straw-man...
cop this wrote:They all seem to have an attraction to children but fail to express that in any sort of care, that is, in taking into account the feelings of any child subjected to such voyeurism - for that is what it is.
Once again, ignoring the feelings of children is the entire point of the current system. I'm the one advocating that we listen to them and let them make their own choices, remember?
cop this wrote:These people are hardly helping break down attitudes to paedophilia - which perhaps is a good thing - but they are possibly not concerned with that, probably just interested in their own little worlds.
That's right. Pretend that advocates like me haven't been succeeding everywhere we go. Keep pretending that you don't need the constant threat of violence to keep us from changing everything with our mere words. It must be comforting to you to believe that.
cop this wrote:It's wrong because young children are generally not in any position to defend their interests, or to know where such images might end up, or to be used for what purpose. That is why parents will protect their children from the intrusive behaviour of others, especially if they appear to be paedophiles. Legal or not, there is a moral question, and it doesn't surprise me that many paedophiles fail to see this. Expecting children to have just the same rights, and to behave just as adults is the typical nonsensical stuff that many paedophiles will promote.
So, again, you were lying when you were accusing my side of the debate of not caring what children think, when your entire position relies on treating them as subhuman and unworthy of self-determination.
cop this wrote:Most likely there will be some adults around to smash your camera and/or you if you do think it is appropriate, especially those thinking of taking covert pictures.
Yep, violence is all you can rely on in defence of your position, since you lost the moral high ground a long time ago.
cop this wrote:Those people who do take such pictures of children are the ones contributing to the hatred often felt towards paedophiles, not making things any better.
Carry On Regardless!

Tell me, how do you feel about pictures being taken of adults in public spaces?