Hi and a random question.

Then there's the fact that most 'scientific' studies on necrophilia use convicted criminals as their case subjects. That really winds me up.

Exactly, and my dad looked up those studies as "factual" support for the things he said to me.
Usually the people writing those studies don't actually care about the people and the groups of people they're studying and profiling. They don't want to understand.
The other way it hurts me in particular is that most of their subjects are men which is kind of hurtful to me as a woman because it gives people the impression that necrophilia is an "unfeminine" thing and that men have some monopoly on it.

Not so long ago, I had an idea of writing a factual book on the subject under a pseudonym, simply to put some accurate information out there for anyone who is interested in understanding necrophilia.

You really should. That'd be awesome. I've read a lot on the subject (using my campus's library to its full potential...if my parents saw me now...haha), obviously in an attempt to understand myself better, and while some of it is okay, a lot of it is very prejudiced and relies on stereotypes, and none of the writers are actually necrophiles so of course they rely on inaccurate but popular studies.

For most of us, it's very hurtful to be likened to somebody like that.

And I'm so sick of hearing about him all the time (not from you guys, mostly from people on the outside). It's hard to use the internet to get any useful information when everyone uses the example of jeffrey dahmer, and I'm just left thinking, no, his crap has nothing to do with me.
No one uses john wayne gacy to attack gay people, and no one uses ted bundy to attack straight people.
For some reason people have this fascination with psychopaths....

skeleton-countess wrote:The other way it hurts me in particular is that most of their subjects are men which is kind of hurtful to me as a woman because it gives people the impression that necrophilia is an "unfeminine" thing and that men have some monopoly on it.

Men certainly don't have a monopoly on necrophilia!

This might surprise many, but most of the genuine necrophiles I've talked to from around the world have been female.

A large percentage of the males I've talked to who identify themselves as necrophiles, are really no such thing. Most of them are gore fetishists, or sadists who want to dominate somebody who can't resist. That's not necrophilia.

You really should. That'd be awesome. I've read a lot on the subject (using my campus's library to its full potential...if my parents saw me now...haha), obviously in an attempt to understand myself better, and while some of it is okay, a lot of it is very prejudiced and relies on stereotypes, and none of the writers are actually necrophiles so of course they rely on inaccurate but popular studies.

Yeah, I really think this book needs to be done. Not only to counter the crap that gets written about necrophilia, but also because what I've got in mind could be a help for people coming to terms with being necrophiles.

This might surprise many, but most of the genuine necrophiles I've talked to from around the world have been female.

I wasn't aware of that. Wow.
I think I've been hanging out in the wrong corners of the internet. Most hentai sites I've been on are full of straight men who are against women interfering in their sacred cartoon porn.
Like I was on this one site where people were requesting (cartoon pictures) of corpses and this one person (probably a girl but it may not have been) asked for pictures of male corpses...and this one guy completely blew up, he was like "NO NO MALE CORPSES PLEASE"
I almost made an account on the site just to post and tell him how out of line he was, and that the world didn't revolve around him and his interests. I probably should have, but I didn't. I stopped going on the site after that, though.

Most of them are gore fetishists, or sadists who want to dominate somebody who can't resist. That's not necrophilia.

I think people use necrophilia as kind of a catch-all for anyone who has sex with a dead person, without considering their motivations or actual feelings and interests. So that's kind of problematic.

Not only to counter the crap that gets written about necrophilia, but also because what I've got in mind could be a help for people coming to terms with being necrophiles

I think that would be a great idea, and I've thought about doing that kind of thing too, because I look back on my own weird coming-to-terms process (that's still in the making) and I know that kids in the future will have to deal with the same crap I did if no one steps in to try to help them.
At one time I thought of making a website or a blog as a resource for necrophiles (especially girls, since I'm also passionate about feminism and I think I can talk about both), and also with articles to help explain it to family members and friends and help them understand. Then maybe people could show it to their parents or something if they don't know how to explain things.

Graveyard76 wrote:Men certainly don't have a monopoly on necrophilia!

This might surprise many, but most of the genuine necrophiles I've talked to from around the world have been female.

Really? That's a fascinating fact! It raises a lot more questions in my mind when it comes to the formation of such a Paraphilia from a neurological standpoint. I wonder if women are more prone to this type of sexuality, for instance. Very interesting!

Graveyard76 wrote:A large percentage of the males I've talked to who identify themselves as necrophiles, are really no such thing. Most of them are gore fetishists, or sadists who want to dominate somebody who can't resist. That's not necrophilia.

This, on the other hand, is not surprising at all. Although I'd still like to know more from a neurological standpoint, too.

Graveyard76 wrote:Yeah, I really think this book needs to be done. Not only to counter the crap that gets written about necrophilia, but also because what I've got in mind could be a help for people coming to terms with being necrophiles.

Yes! Finish it already! Do you have a relatively-set goal for when you'd like to finish it by. Ever since you've mentioned it in our PM's I've never stopped thinking about it. I love these types of topics, especially when they're made for the general public! If there's anything we need more in this world it's acceptance and understanding.

I had a lot written down at one point, but I lost it all to hard drive failure.

Re-writing it all isn't a problem, and as time goes on I'm finding certain things worthy of deeper examination. For instance the male/female ratios, and the personality types, because these things hold some real surprises for some people.

Most importantly, it needs to be done in a responsible way that doesn't promote or normalise anything illegal, yet fairly represents the overwhelming majority of decent, law abiding people who live with necrophilia but never come to anyone's attention.

I agree, I think the illegal aspect makes it hard too.
But it would be great if we could get the attention of a responsible researcher who would be interested in making an accurate representative study, and at least change some of the academic literature.

skeleton-countess wrote:But it would be great if we could get the attention of a responsible researcher who would be interested in making an accurate representative study, and at least change some of the academic literature.

This is what may be the biggest complication, actually. There are scientists out there that would be able to conduct a completely anonymous study in swearing to secrecy the identity of the subjects (so as to allow greater numbers of subjects to participate. The only real issue is the funding one. These studies can cost a fortune!

I would greatly enjoy reading the scientific paper behind the neurological components of the tests! I know for a fact that Adrian Raine has conducted hundreds of similar tests that apply to both neurology and otherwise. If he can't get one started, he'll definitely have contacts that would be able to!

Ghost147 wrote:

skeleton-countess wrote:But it would be great if we could get the attention of a responsible researcher who would be interested in making an accurate representative study, and at least change some of the academic literature.

This is what may be the biggest complication, actually. There are scientists out there that would be able to conduct a completely anonymous study in swearing to secrecy the identity of the subjects (so as to allow greater numbers of subjects to participate. The only real issue is the funding one. These studies can cost a fortune!

I would greatly enjoy reading the scientific paper behind the neurological components of the tests! I know for a fact that Adrian Raine has conducted hundreds of similar tests that apply to both neurology and otherwise. If he can't get one started, he'll definitely have contacts that would be able to!

One of the major American universities (I think Northwestern) is doing a study of pedophilia and they have an anonymous online questionnaire for pedophiles that goes into lots of depth and asks all sorts of questions regarding the individual and their attraction. It's super interesting and made me really think about myself analytically. It would be cool if they had something like that for necrophiles...someone needs to get this done!

xoPinkerbelleox wrote:One of the major American universities (I think Northwestern) is doing a study of pedophilia and they have an anonymous online questionnaire for pedophiles that goes into lots of depth and asks all sorts of questions regarding the individual and their attraction. It's super interesting and made me really think about myself analytically. It would be cool if they had something like that for necrophiles...someone needs to get this done!

Oh! Very interesting! would you be able to find the exact site? Perhaps we could request various other Paraphilias as well?

Ghost147 wrote:

xoPinkerbelleox wrote:One of the major American universities (I think Northwestern) is doing a study of pedophilia and they have an anonymous online questionnaire for pedophiles that goes into lots of depth and asks all sorts of questions regarding the individual and their attraction. It's super interesting and made me really think about myself analytically. It would be cool if they had something like that for necrophiles...someone needs to get this done!

Oh! Very interesting! would you be able to find the exact site? Perhaps we could request various other Paraphilias as well?

I gotta find it. I came across it back over the summer. If I do, I'll definitely post it up.