lesshopesishopeless wrote:I'm tired, about what happened in my last post the doubt came back, I've been trying for almost 1 week and 5 days to anakize this and be sure what really happened. You have no idea how bad I feel, I feel a knot in my chest and I just want to disappear. I regret coming here is that I have nowhere to go, I can't lean on family because if they knew what I did, they would be disappointed. Please someone help me, all I want is to know if that such an atrocity: while I was masturbating at the end I used the arousal sensations that the intrusive thought gave me while I was in the back of my mind. I know this just reinforces the cycle of the toc, but I can't live with the anguish of not knowing what really happened. My chest hurts, what do I do? I would be the first person who acted without compulsion in their intrusive thoughts. What can I do? This is too immoral. The only thing I know is that I do not desire sexually or romantically this person, when I see her it is only family love. What do I do? The anguish kills me and I don't know what to do. I already got a psychologist, but I haven't talked about this. I am afraid to know the truth. I will describe what really happened and I am sorry to be explicit, but I want you to know how it really was or what happened objectively. I was therefore in post climax and I was touching myself to intensify the last sensations while I saw a person in the front of my mind (it was not sexual or desire that person, I thought it for I do not know, I just know it was not to fantasize, it is the same person that I use to avoid thought of the intrusive person) and in that comes the intrusive thought that was present in the back of my mind and not very clear and it was not sexual, and as these thoughts give me groinal response or conditioned arousal, I think that while I was observing both thoughts and as the intrusive thought gives me arousal automatically, those sensations came while I was touching myself and I used them to be touching myself or as they came I didn't stop and I followed them and continued using them to intensify the arousal as I did when I was touching myself to intensify the last feelings of post climax. And here comes the doubt: I think that really happened and I used the sensations that the thought provokes and used them to touch me, for pleasure? Acting on my intrusive thoughts and it wasn't compulsion, it was deliberate. I feel like it was that if this happened I was just using the sensations that the thought provoked but I wasn't manipulating the content of the thought or making it sexual, I was just static... you know what I'm saying? It wasn't compulsion, it was deliberate, I acted on them probably. I have analyzed a lot and there is evidence that it didn't happen, but more and more doubts came and more and more doubts came. That it probably wasn't conscious but then it was conscious and I don't know. I will ignore the great analysis that I did. And you can give me your opinion and I can accept that I did the worst and it hurts me but at the same time I don't want to accept because I'm not sure if that happened, but it seems like it did and I don't know, I don't know. Sorry and thank you. I'm just desperate and I have nowhere to go.
catnaps wrote:If you have a fear of being attracted to something, and you have OCD, your mind will invariably bring up those thoughts. It doesn’t confirm at all that you are what you fear, it only confirms that you still fear it. The same is true of where you might glance. If there’s something disgusting right in front of us, many people involuntarily glance at it even though they don’t want to.
The important thing here is that you reacted negatively to your eyes briefly checking out your mom and a young girl. You cannot be blamed for a thought that pops into your head you didn’t want or your eyes glancing at something you don’t want to glance at.
The more you fear it, the more it’s likely to happen. It’s just the way OCD works.If you trust yourself and ignore those glances or intrusive thoughts, the fear will eventually subside and stop happening.
Snaga wrote:Hello Lesshope!
I'm assuming this has something to do with your other thread (which I may choose to merge this one with), concerning intrusive thoughts?
Perhaps I missed it, what the intrusive thought was, in that other thread- I'm assuming (because it's terribly common) something of a POCD nature? Or were they of a HOCD nature? Not that I'm sure it matters, other than in the small details.
And if so, is that what you were thinking while half-asleep?
I've woken from dreams, erotic dreams, taboo dreams in which I was the person perpetrating the taboo act. And, half-asleep, I have been known to ramble along what the dream started, half-awake, half-asleep, sort of fantasizing but half dream-like as well. To the point of then getting awake enough to masturbate to the thoughts.
Which doesn't make me the sort of person that would do what was going on in the dream. Far from it.
Of course, being OCD, it'd be very easy to let it get inside my head and worry about it. So I both remind myself that I am not necessarily my sexual thoughts; and also I am very careful not to often have the same sort of fantasies or thoughts when wide awake- I can't control what I dream about, that's just too complex a thing and there's never any telling what a dream could mean, or if it means anything at all. So I try not to stress it, even when it spills into the (half) conscious world. But I candecide to not fantasize or think things that make me uncomfortable, especially when they're not a core part of my being. Having said that, however, keep in mind that once you get an OCD-like obsession/worry about something, it's awfully hard not to think it. It's like having a broken tooth or a sore in your mouth- you keep pestering it and pestering it. Same thing when a person's gripped in a pretty bad OCD episode, it's just too easy to think about that thing that disturbs you, over and over. Lord knows enugh people in this forum have done it, repeatedly. Still doesn't make them whatever it is that was spiking their anxiety. And doesn't make you a bad person, either.
KidDJ wrote:How are you doing? Do you suffer from Incest OCD?
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