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Just a little rant about intrusive thoughts

Postby failedatlife » Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:12 am

Hey, I just wanted to write this somewhere, because if I keep it to myself for too long, I'm afraid it will eventually happen. I've always had a very bad time with intrusive thoughts, and recently there has been this one which makes me very scared, that soon I will lose my mind completely and hurt my little brother, maybe even kill him (for the record, we get along very well and there is no reason I would actually want to do it). That's all.
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Re: Just a little rant about intrusive thoughts

Postby Snaga » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:03 am

I've moved this into OCD, because it's very OCD-like. I used to suffer from having intrusive harm thoughts very like that. Have you any formal diagnosis? Not to say you have this or that, but this is a common OCD thing, and family members and pets are the most common things associated with harm thoughts. You wouldn't know it from all the sexual theme posts here, but really, this kind of thing is common as dirt. It took me a long time to learn how to disregard such thoughts. Once you can manage to cop an attitude of not caring 'I'll worry about it when I've done it, not before', then you'd be surprised how much such thoughts lessen.
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Just a little rant about intrusive thoughts pt. 2

Postby failedatlife » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:46 pm

Hi,

Sorry, if I'm getting annoying, but sometimes I just really need to write some bad thoughts off because they are getting onto me and I can't just go to my therapist every day. I'm having a really bad time accepting people's opinions and I tend to go very aggressive when someone doesn't agree with me. There was something I argued about with my mother and we wre on polar opposite opinions. I got very aggressive and shouted all the time. After the fight there were thoughts about me betraying or even killing my family because of the fight, which scared me, and I'm known for acting awfully towards people. Last time I had such a big fight with someone I ended up betraying my best friend by exposing his parallel relationships to his wive. I'm afraid I'm going to lose control of myself and do the unthinkable to my mother/father/brother and I don't want to do it. And I feel that if I keep it to myself, it may happen.
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Re: Just a little rant about intrusive thoughts

Postby Snaga » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:00 am

Well, I confess with my personality, I found it mildly shocking about that fight with your friend, and what you did. But I know people who have a streak like that in them. That doesn't equate to being murderous, however. I mean even for someone who might be a little vindictive, that doesn't necessarily mean that they might be prone to violence.

For me, the idea of losing control has been a large feature in my experience with intrusive harm thoughts. The idea that I'd lose control, or black out, or do it in my sleep- for me that's always been my Achilles heel OCD has used to beat me over the head with- I'm going to kill someone- my partner, traditionally- in my sleep. Like sleepwalking, except it's killing. It'll wait until I've composed myself for sleep, then it'll sneak up and try to ambush me. I've learned to disregard such thoughts, and as a result I hardly ever have to deal with them any longer. It takes practice but it's doable. It's ceasing to worry about something I can't control. I haven't a history of losing control and hurting or killing people. Mere thoughts certainly can't make me do it. If I go out of my head so bad I do something like that, well, there's no point in worrying over something that hasn't happened yet- I've had many decades to act out to such thoughts, or 'lose control' and do the feared thing, and yet I haven't- so what makes me think it'll happen now? Nothing. OCD ain't got nothing but hollow threats that I'll do something horrible. Once I'd really convinced myself of that, things got a lot better for me. At some point, I had to stop caring so much about if I'd ever do such a thing or not. Not going to, so why should I care about these thoughts? After that, I get thoughts like that only infrequently, and when I do I'm able to ignore them and forget I even had such a thought after only a few minutes, rather than worry and obsess and act on compulsions over them. Some days it takes a little more effort than others- I've learned to slowly put such thoughts down, and slowly back away from them. Figuratively speaking. When I get an intrusive harm thought and I'm particularly vulnerable to anxiety from it, I mentally set that thought down, leave it be, and back off. It'll go away on its own, because I instinctively know if I chew on that thought even just a little, I'm liable to undo all the progress I've made in learning to ignore them. I do that also with POCD themed thoughts. I just mentally shake my head and tell my OCD 'nope not going there. NOT going there at all!'. If I don't let myself get started on it, then it can't become a huge anxiety for me.
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Re: Just a little rant about intrusive thoughts

Postby failedatlife » Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:43 pm

Thank you for your insight. It feels relieving to be able to compare the experiences of other people. I don't have a diagnosis, but both my therapist and psychiatrist have stressed that I am very much prone to anxiety and prescribed me a couple of tranquilizers (still not seeing the effect but it's been two weeks since I began taking it). As for having control on my thoughts, that's where I fail. I just can't let the thoughts go on and everytime I have one, I become very scared that it might happen and I try to tell it to someone in order to "prevent" that. In fact, I've had one thought in the last week that my brother might get killed in a car crash, as someone coming from the side would be too fast and crash in the back door. Most probably it's not going to happen, but still I need to vent somewhere just to be sure.
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Re: Just a little rant about intrusive thoughts

Postby Snaga » Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:13 am

What have you been prescribed?

I take two antidepressants: escitalopram (Lexapro) for general anxiety, and also I've been given trazodone to use as a sleep aid. In the U.S., both of those are off-label (but common) usages. I'm not sure what class of drugs trazodone's in, but it's not an SSRI the way Lexapro is.

I've read in Europe, escitalopram is prescribed explicitly for OCD, and trazodone is mentioned as being sometimes prescribed for OCD. As far as my OCD goes, it does seem to me that one or both of those together has taken some of the edge off my OCD. I used to have severe job anxieties and obsessions, and while I still have them, they've dulled quite a bit. I went through some job turmoil, and had to change employers, and was idle for a couple years, during which I began taking those medications. So some of my experience may be due to merely having changed jobs, but I don't think that's all of it, either. I do think those two meds (minimal doses on each of them) have managed to ease anxiety/depression just enough to at least function without throwing myself into mental histrionics most of the time.
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Re: Just a little rant about intrusive thoughts

Postby failedatlife » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:16 pm

Hi, I'm having the thoughts again, this time it's about the New Year celebrations. After long talks with my aunt it seems they are not coming to us and instread going to their friends, which means we are staying by ourselves. I'm having this thought that my dad is going to get very drunk and violate us, e.g., force himself on mum and make me and my brother watch, and then kill all of us. He is not violent even when he is drunk, he usually falls asleep, so I don't really have to worry about that, I just wanted to let this off. Happy new year! :)
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Re: Just a little rant about intrusive thoughts

Postby failedatlife » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:43 pm

Hi, it's me again. Sorry if I'm being annoying, but that's the place where I let my thoughts off. So, yesterday I learned that I am getting a huge heating bill this month and I am very scared. That's because the house I live in is actually family property and my dad gets to know everything about the bills, house, etc. This time I'm scared because I know Dad would be furious when he finds out, and I'm worried it would be too much of a pressure for him. I'm very worried he might have a heart attack and die, because he had blood pressure problems. Once again sorry for the constant nagging but I just need to let these thoughts off.
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Re: Just a little rant about intrusive thoughts

Postby Snaga » Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:44 am

failedatlife wrote:Hi, it's me again. Sorry if I'm being annoying, but that's the place where I let my thoughts off


failedatlife wrote:I just need to let these thoughts off


Have you considered starting a blog or journal thread? You'll have freedom in those to be as off-topic as you want, in addition to being able to post your thoughts.
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