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by Lisa1989 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:33 pm
TOCD is just as real as HOCD and POCD. It doesn't matter what exact theme it is, it's a fact that OCD themes evolve around sexuality in general. TOCD is just not talked about as often, but I guess it'll be more present because it's talked about so much and the Internet is full of it. There could be OCD for basically anything that seems scary to a person. So yes, TOCD exists and it's a common theme.
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by jdd » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:39 pm
I believe sites like OCDLA and similar with their comment section have had the doctors mention the trans fears are all the same as the gay fears its just OCD ofc.
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by snowflakesb » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:01 pm
I went to the ocdla site just now and searched both the site and the blog with 'trans' and 'transgender' and nothing came up, jay. :/

I don't know what to believe anymore. And there I was thinking I was on the way to getting better...
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by jdd » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:44 pm
I don't remember if it was OCDLA or not but they were not talked about in the articles. But responses from them to comments. That all sexuality obsessions are basically the same regardless of gay, trans or any other form.
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by Lisa1989 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:45 pm
Even if you were the very first person to suffer from TOCD it would still be OCD. It's not the theme that determines whether it's OCD, it's the obsessive thinkin, repetitive intrusive thoughts, and extreme anxiety that can only be reduced by performing compulsions. That is OCD. Doesn't matter. Hocd, TOCD, pocd, rocd...
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by Matt8787 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:08 pm
When I first got TOCD I had the exact same reaction too. There was not a whole lot of OCD websites and information sources that talked about it (only this forum) and so I concluded transgender fears were sincerely the real thing. But then I realized... why doesn't TOCD exist? Is the fear of being of transgender really something that OCD never touches? Of course not, OCD isn't like that. OCD is a beast that will stop at nothing to make you feel uncomfortable. If having thoughts of being a giraffe is something that makes you uncomfortable then your OCD obsession will turn into GOCD. There are no limits, I think, to OCD.
Also I had extreme HOCD before I had TOCD and right when I got TOCD the HOCD completely went away. That's another sign its just OCD that simply morphed into a new obsession. Also I have 0% an actual urge to crossdress or act effeminate, in fact the entire idea of doing so scares me. This sounds familiar, people with harm OCD NEVER will actually harm anyone and the idea of doing so scares them as well. But alas, there's always that uncertainty ("maybe I am actually gay, a future murderer, a pedophile, ect.") and I've learned to no longer care and simply embrace the fact that I have these uncomfortable thoughts. Ever since I've accepted I have these thoughts (by no longer putting emotional significance to them) my situation has drastically improved. I still have these thoughts but they no longer interfere with my life.
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by Lisa1989 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:00 pm
Agreed, Matt. When I first got an intrusive T thought I immediately talked to Trans people first and it made me even more anxious. I'm glad you found a way to deal with this by not paying too much attention to the thoughts. I'm not quite there yet, but I've been freaking myself out for 4 months now and it's gotten slightly better, but I wonder if the feelings of feeling too manly will ever go away and whether I can see myself as a woman again... And not be self-conscious about it.
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by Matt8787 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:32 pm
Since my TOCD has been dying down my masculinity has slowly been coming back, so yeah I expect it to fully come back eventually. Today is the first day since I've had TOCD (about 5 months) that I can imagine myself as a man without being self-conscious about it or being worried I'll think of myself as a woman. I've even gotten over my phobia of lips and lipstick (this trigger stayed with me the longest) but now long hair triggers me. Another sign that its just OCD is that my triggers change almost weekly, one week I was afraid of looking at high-heels, another week long nails, one week old ladies (such a strange thing to say I had old-lady phobia once

) and now its long hair. But now if I were to look at those things they would trigger no response or any T thought.
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by Lisa1989 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:38 pm
And Matt, when the TOCD was fully present, did you feel really feminine and were you worried that everything you did was effeminate? Did you check? Watch your mannerisms and all? And did it feel like you had always been Trans and just in denial?
It's hard for me to imagine what it feels like to not have these thoughts and know I'm a woman. I'm scared this will never go away..
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by Matt8787 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:50 pm
Yeah I did feel really feminine, and I still do but only when I have the T thoughts. If I didn't feel feminine when my TOCD was strongest I felt "neutral" like in the middle, never masculine. When I first got TOCD I worried a lot about whether my mannerisms were effeminate, however I rarely ever checked. It was purely pure-O, no compulsions. I resisted opening my mouth whenever I saw lipstick nor look down at my feet every time I saw high-heels. I didn't want to add further worry about whether the way I talked or my mannerisms were effeminate so I only moved my limbs when I needed to and only talked when I needed to. I was literally crippled with fear, even my parents noticed I had my arms tensed up 24/7 and I talked way less. I began to look at signs all throughout my life whether I was always trans and barely realizing now. Now if I'm near a woman wearing a lot of makeup I tense up, sometimes I furrow my brow and close my eyes for a second, and maybe even grunt too if the T thought becomes really unbearable. You could count those as compulsions I guess.
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