What I like about having OCD!

EZee wrote:Dear Amy,
I find your passionate responses most flattering. By the way, perhaps it would be best if you resigned as a moderator while you seek the help you need to conquer your personal demons. Good luck and God Bless.

Whoa dude, you're barking up the wrong tree here. You obviously read what you wanted to read from my post and disregarded the rest. You never even addressed any of the information that I have provided or even understood my point in the least. I was merely trying to explain to you that your method can not work for everyone, as this is a real disorder, not just a way of thinking. So please read and understand what is posted before you make statements like these.
As for me fighting my demons, Don't worry about me there EZEE, I am taking the proper steps towards recovery and have been making alot of progress. Where in my post did you come up with the assumption that I even had demons? I never one complained about my personal experience with OCD.

I find your passionate responses most flattering.

Why thank you very kindly. I am passionate about helping myself and others with this disorder. I have devoted the past 8 years of my life to researching this disorder and the most effective treatments to quell it. Along with all of this studying I have also experienced OCD first hand. So I'm glad that my passion on this subject is flattering to you, I have no idea why it would be flattering, but it's good just the same.
You talk of this "positive thinking" but have yet to give any actual advice as to how get to that point. Umm, I'm not too sure about the others, but I have given that one a try way too many times. As a result had to leave work on numerous occasions due to extreme anxiety caused by an ocd episode usually lasting about 2-3 months. But, never once did I feel sorry for myself, nor did I use this disorder as a crutch, as you again so rudely implied that we use this disorder as a crutch. Hmmmm, I wish this disorder served as a crutch to me. In fact this is the cause of the broken leg.
You seem to know absolutely nothing about the actual disorder. Any one can just say "hey think positively". Come on man give us more to work with, if you actually want to be taken seriously. How Exactly did you do this? Just by listening to postive speakers? Or did church help you? Or what?
Now as I said in my last post, I understand your intent, and I do appreciate your optimism. It is really good to know that someone has one this battle with Ocd. I say that in all seriousness, not with the least bit of sarcasm. I truly applaud you. It takes a strong mind to do such a thing.
As for me resigning as a moderator, that is none of your concern. If administration thought that I was unfit to be a mod, they would definately pull the plug here. If you'd like you can send a complaint via PM to one of the other mods or the admin. I'm sure they would be more than happy to listen.
Take care,
Amy

It was a poor assumption on your part to think I worry about you because I'm not worried about you or what you think. I am however interested in helping everyone that has OCD win against this terrible disease. And based on what you've said about yourself that includes you. However, I am not suggesting that you need anything from me. I'm just saying if any part of what I found helpful works for you and you want to use it then great and if not thats great as well. Good luck in your personal battle and God bless!







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Well, thank you. But when you mentioned that I should resign as a moderator to conquer my own demons, it seemed that you had some kind of problem with me. Not that you were worried for me but that you had an issue. So I addressed it. I'm still waiting to hear what you have to give to us. What is your point? How do we do this, and how do we win.

You just ramble about the same old song and dance, but never explain it thoroughly. And then jump to the defense when questioned. So please answer me this, since you have been avoiding it for so long, what is your method exactly? And how can we use it?

You say and I will quote you on this one

Unless you've lived through the hell of OCD you can't truly lead others through the fire to wellness!!!! I've been through the fire and if I can lead you out, it would be my pleasure!

That is quite amazing that you think you posess that power. Please EZEE lead us through the fire. I am all ears. Seriously I will try anything. But I can't just think positively, and expect this to just go away. Come on now you should know that. But, I will tell you that I do think positively while receiving the proper treatment for myself. But it seems you have seen the light of some sort and keep dangling it over our heads. Tell us! What is your method exactly. Lead us from damnation my friend. I'm being serious. You have never answered any of my questions. If you want to help someone you must be prepared for questions and answer them.
So if you want to help someone, here is your chance, my mind is open to anything.I would absolutely love to be where you are right now. So please instead of just getting sour with me, explain yourself.

EZee wrote: However, I am not suggesting that you need anything from me. I'm just saying if any part of what I found helpful works for you and you want to use it then great and if not thats great as well.

What the heck did you find? You're keeping me in suspense.

Its enjoyable to read your posts. Thanks for the entertainment!

EZee wrote:Its enjoyable to read your posts. Thanks for the entertainment!

But you have yet to offer your help to me when I have asked you repeatedly. Here I am EZEE. I'm asking for you help. What is your method? I'm glad that me asking you to explain yourself more thoroughly is entertaining to you. wow you really should be a positive speaker, you got that whole positive thing down pat.
Here is some advice that I have for you:
Don't offer what you can't provide.

If you had truly understood what I said you would have understood that there is more to it that simply thinking positive. Positive thinking by itself is of course better than the negative thoughts presented by OCD. However it will not make things better by itself. A person must become so positive that it is a normal way of life for them. If we have to think about thinking positive we have not reached the point we need to be in order to live a positive life. So, how can we go about this. First, we need to decide that we are going to be and live positive right now. Second, we should constantly feed our minds with positive messages. Third, these messages should be targeted towards our self confidence and our self esteem. By strenthening our self image we become better equipped to handle the struggles presented to us by this disorder. Finally, once we have developed a tremendously strong self image we can indeed live life with with enthusiasm and great joy. This process takes time and dedication. However, its rewards are definately worth the effort. And as simple as it sounds, this can be a very effective tool to bring about what can be a very significant change in our lives. This process may not be as effective for others as it was for me but unless it is accepted and then applied how will anyone know for sure. It is my hope that everyone here will give give this approach to wellness an honest and dedicated effort. At the very least there will be some improvement in the quality of life and of course the effects of it could improve life tremendously.
The choice is yours of course. You can dismiss this as rubbish or you can apply to your life and see if it has merit. What ever you to decide to do is great, because you decided what was best for you. I know whats best for me and how effective it is so I will continue to use it for my benefit. Good luck!

I totally agree with |aimdog| , and it is a very strang thing to say that you have controlled or found a way to control a crazy mental illness like OCD...
I may quote what EZee has said,

, I called the unwanted thoughts a lie and ejected them from my mind as you would eject a tape from a tape player. Third, I used the "I don't care statement" to stop repetitive behaviors. Fourth, I refused to comiserated about having OCD!!

I am totally surprised at this statement, i mean how can a person if having diagnosed with OCD can tell his/her mind to not think negative thoughts...?
i mean its the biggest difficulty in OCD that your mind is out of control, u can not ever stop your mind from thinking negative thoughts...
its impossible to tell your mind to stop all the negative thoughts, since its beyond your abilities, how it can be done. But if you have some how managed to tell your mind to stop thinking bad stuffs and start thinking good stuffs, then you might never had OCD or you are one of a kind person…..
its totally impracticable to control your thoughts this easily what EZee has said..
but if Ezee you have really managed to control your thoughts this way then you r one amazing person with very strange abilities...

Thanks for your input. It appears that you have trouble with your OCD and do not believe you can win against it. If you believe that to be true, then is that thought indeed the truth? Or is it like many thoughts from OCD, a lie? OCD would like for you to believe that you are at its mercy and that it rules and you are its servant. Is this true for you? If so, do you enjoy living like that? Is there anything you can do to bring about a change for the better? Ocd, make no mistake about it, is a formidable disorder and it takes a tremendous effort and dedication to bring about a change for the better. However, since ridding ourselves of it completely may not be a possiblity, what can be done to make living with it easier? The answer may be different for each of us. I've posted a method that could be used as an effective tool to bring about an effective change for the better. Since part of OCD is repetitive thoughts, wouldn't it be nice if these thoughts were of a positive nature. Thoughts that said for example, I am a good person, I love myself, I love others, I have great abilities, I respect myself, I respect others, I am kind to myself and others, I know I will be the best me I can be, etc. etc. Even if those thoughts were repetitive wouldn't a person's self esteem increase? And if that were indeed the case, would the quality of life improve? So, if a person were able to change their self talk or repetitive thoughts from negative to positive would that person eventually be more happy? Would they also at that point, be making OCD their personal servant and using it to make life better? If so, then how would a person go about getting these results? Would listening to positive and motivational recordings, that were direct towards a person's self confidence and self esteem be beneficial? In addition, if these thoughts were believed and accepted as fact would or could a person then have a better life? If for example, a person's self esteem became so strong that they were past the point of just thinking positive, they were to the point that they knew that they could improve not only their life but increase the happiness of those they encounter everyday, would that person in fact have made a serious change for the better? These are things that I hope people will consider before jumping to conclusions about whether or not making the effort to replace negative thoughts with positive ones can be an effective tool to combat OCD. One thing is for sure, accomplishing this will not be easy and if it were easy then many people would be doing it right now. The choice on whether or not to try this type of approach is up to you. It worked and is still working for me. Good luck!

ezee, i believe in what you say. That being said, i think you could say it a little less confrontatinally.

This evening, I am a wreck because my OCD has interfered with my most loving and amazing relationship I have ever had. I eject my thoughts, I block them from my mind, I find better things to think about. But its amazing how one unchecked obessesive thought can lead you on a downward spiral. I feel like my girlfriend thinks Im a freak and as I try to tell her about my ocd...about unwanted thoughts not being a reflection of how i truely feel about her, she wants to understand but she cant.

And this hurts my struggle, because for the longest time shes been my motivation to get over this. How do you laugh with someone and have the most amazing times shared together and then go back and think horrible thoughts about them? Its so evil this thing, but the second I give up all is lost.

So Ezee, its far from over and its far from simple but please make it sound a little less easy. I am with you my friend, i know how bad this can be and I have seen glimpses of myself uninfluenced by sick thinking, and every day i strive to get there.

Good luck everyone and lets not let petty squabbling get in the way of our own personal struggles. This board is a place to come to see that you are not alone, none of us are alone in this. There is much love here.

Mike