Snaga wrote:I have self-harmed for anxiety, many times, and find it very relieving- but the effect is very temporary.
I just want to express my sympathy for your own struggles, because I feel like I've been a bit one sided in all of this. Right now I'm really focused in on myself, cause everything has gotten so bad so fast. I just want to say that I hope that things are getting better for you, and that I appreciate you coming on here and sharing your compassion and experiences Snaga.
Snaga wrote:So I'd lean toward your idea it was SH in the face of extreme emotion, and since you'd been thinking about it... ? gave it a try?
I can see that. It wasn't the first thing I reached for, just in that moment something had to happen and fast. I wasn't about to get up and run out of the room or start screaming/crying so I think I tried to turn the "fight" impulse in on myself rather than make a scene or just totally lose it.
Snaga wrote:Which can be completely separate...
I'm not even sure if I qualify for one or the other or both or which is which. The ambiguity of it all is part of what is so bothersome right now. At first when I started getting professional help, I kind of freaked my therapist out because I was
so happy to be told I had depression. I was like, thank god. A tangible word for what this is. Some logic and sense to what is happening. A reason. I feel like the relief of having a simple label has vanished in the light of reality, which of course is complex and changes based on the day or the situation.
Snaga wrote:SH can get addictive...
That is certainly a big part of my fear. The ironic part of this is that I've seen the dark side of it. I've seen people with the scars, emotional and physical, the deep lines that will never go away. I've heard them talk about how they wish they'd never started. So far, I've been good about avoiding having any addictions out of sheer stubbornness. I won't touch drugs or cigarettes. I drink, but never let myself actually get drunk and keep it out of my house and out of temptation's reach. I don't gamble. I just avoid the temptation and I'm good. The scary thing is the temptation to hurt myself is pretty much constantly in my brain or available all around me, so I don't know how to avoid it so easily as the other possible vices.
You sound like you've in many ways started the process of recovery. Is there anything that might help me stop before I start?
Snaga wrote:As far as suicide ideation...
Wow, that makes a lot of sense too. Honestly the thoughts are normally tied pretty closely to my anxiety. Its like my brain's way of trying to cope with the stress, by just repeating the mental image of something much worse or a scenario in which I would not have to worry about it anymore, an escape. Socially tense situations normally coincide with the self-harm thoughts. As they're talking to me, I look like I'm listening but as the anxiety level rises so does the mental idea of inducing physical pain. Sometimes I wonder if its just an attempt to release how anxious people make me or if its feeling like I deserve pain after how awful I am at talking to people. Like if I mess up at work, the thoughts go from 0 to 60 and I have to question if its me wanting to beat myself up.
Snaga wrote:Not that I haven't had intrusive suicide thoughts...
You may be onto something there too.
Thoughts of suicide usually come for me in the face of what feels like too much stuff. Have a paper due? Think about not having to write a paper because you're dead. Think about being dead for a solid 30 minutes. Get more worried about having to write a paper because you spent 30 minutes feeling really freaked out about not being able to push the image out of your head. Spend another 30 minutes thinking about why you can't stop thinking about it. Aggh. Its frustrating.
Snaga wrote:I don't think... that in a lot of cases, that our level of anxiety with pure-o stays the same...
Wow, no kidding. Its like...Like my brain is trying to shock me. Like its trying to produce the world's best horror movie, personalized for me. If I stop reacting, it finds new and interesting ways to provoke a reaction. Even the same image, just saved for the right moment, can still get me. And being bored or exhausted of the thought doesn't make it go away, its the most persistent of bullies.