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Postby 21st_c_SchizoidMan » Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:17 am

Could anyone provide examples of actions that could be described as "messing with a narcissist's head"?
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Re: Messing with a narcissist's head?

Postby velouria » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:04 pm

Ignoring them.
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Re: Messing with a narcissist's head?

Postby medusa » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:18 pm

... or agreeing with everything they believe about themselves. They will love you, and thus will be easily manipulated.

Only problem is it won't seem to them like you are messing with their heads. Unless you suddenly ignore them out of the blue.
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Re: Messing with a narcissist's head?

Postby unfortunate_sorrow » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:02 pm

or overpower them
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Re: Messing with a narcissist's head?

Postby larry » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:31 pm

If you really want to mess with a narcissist’s head (playing with fire) then it can actually be quite amusing if done right. As Medusa has said, the best way to manipulate one is to simply agree and reinforce all of their absurd ideas, plans, lies, whatever.

Don’t overdo it however. They are naturally suspicious. Basically what you are trying to do is turn yourself into one of said N’s sources of supply. He will love you and depend on you. (they need supply)

Now you have him where you want him. All you have to do is stop giving supply. Don’t disagree with his stories or call out his lies. If you challenge him, he will know that you are no longer a viable source and is likely to simply leave you alone.
Instead, ALWAYS agree with him, but OFTEN just don’t answer the phone or return text messages. This way you are still a valuable source of supply(in his mind) but he just can’t seem to get you when he needs it(supply). Remember you answer the phone when it amuses YOU!!!

This will mess with his head and deprive him of the drug he needs. Of course this tactic is only effective if he views you as potential supply and does not have a lot of other options available.

BTW, I’m not condoning this kind of manipulation.
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Re: Messing with a narcissist's head?

Postby unfortunate_sorrow » Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:57 am

larry, that sounds like the narcissist is still using you completely and you are just trying to make the situation sound better than it is
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Re: Messing with a narcissist's head?

Postby larry » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:21 am

unfortunate_sorrow wrote:larry, that sounds like the narcissist is still using you completely and you are just trying to make the situation sound better than it is


Quite insightful. I never thought of it like that.

Fortunately, I am not in a situation where I need this person in any way. Nor does he have any leverage over me. If I am still giving him some supply I don’t mind that.

It’s not like I am any worse for the wear.
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Re: Messing with a narcissist's head?

Postby unfortunate_sorrow » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:23 am

i guess so. but it seems they are benefitting from you more than you are from them
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Re: Messing with a narcissist's head?

Postby Sumner » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:55 am

I was drunk as a skunk one time, went over to my NPD dad's house and hugged him. Thankfully, I don't remember it. A week later I was on his back deck threatening his life like an enraged wildman, so I guess those two actions can be construed as mindf-cking.

I have been yo-yo'ing in regard to him all my life, but wasn't aware. Two years of talking to him, three years not. We go in that cycle. I'm kind of happy with myself that I've been so unpredictable, although it is the least healthy way to interact with an NPD. You can't be half reactive to them and be their supply and be half pissed off and violently vindictive, as you'll drive yourself nuts. Seriously, it would be easier to just cow and be supply (although tragic, obviously), or just forget he exists. Polar reactions for a lifetime of polar treatment at the hands of your NPD parent.
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Re: Messing with a narcissist's head?

Postby Euler » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:02 pm

omg, you people really can't be that supid, lol.

With all this talk about how to manipulate a Narcissist, how to get one who is untreated to care about x,y, or z, and all the other nonsense that goes on this forum I really think you folks really deserve your treatment.

A Narcissist views people like an apple or a snickers bar...no empathy remember? If you no longer serve as a source of supply, I would and could just as easily find someone else to amuse myself. Not to mention, that I'd make sure to have people lined up just in case one of you went South on me. There's nothing you could do to really get the better of someone with NPD, especially if one is untreated. Unlike me, you would actually overtly feel your lose. Without therapy (like in the past) I would easily rationalize whatever away, get some supply, and bingo...back to my energetic self like nothing happened. Since being in therapy, I'd simply write this off as another game empaths like to play which means none of you are serious about an equal relationship in any context...so you're not worth my time.

Either way, you lose and someone like me would easily move on. Whether moving on consists of his/her boot stomping on your face as a Narcissist move or not would depend on whether the person is in treatment or not. Either way, it doesn't work so I reckon just stop playing games with folks. We don't take kindly to such nonsense.
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