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Re: How do other NPD feel about the prospect of dying?

Postby Spaced » Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:47 pm

Akuma wrote:Im more scared to be reborn than to die.


Because of what you might be reborn as? It would suck to come back as an insect or some other easy prey.
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Re: How do other NPD feel about the prospect of dying?

Postby Akuma » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:47 am

Spaced wrote:
Akuma wrote:Im more scared to be reborn than to die.


Because of what you might be reborn as? It would suck to come back as an insect or some other easy prey.


Well the weird thign is I have dreams about rebirth since many years, accompanied by a very specific, strong and almost disgusting sense of dread, sadness and hopelessness.
I guess its two things - the first is that I do remember to a degree how helpless you are as a kid and how chaotic the sense of reality is in the first years. Youre surrounded by a neverending stream of stimuli you cant make sense of and youre completely dependent on the outside world to care for you. On top of that as a human it takes a relatively long time to become able to make sense of things and even longer to have your own agency or your own life.
Secondly there is a feeling of powerlessness and loss, that you are also implying in your insect example, which I think im my case goes a bit deeper though. In my dreams its mostly about "waking up" in school, lookin at my school friends and realizing this hasnt been the first time, but its also never going to last, theres always this inevitable purge of everything that you worked on and then you get thrown back into the pool and come out as god knows what.
While that inevitable loss of everything, this harsh deletion and devaluation of your human values, goals, dreams, memories etc. is also typical for peoples fear of death I suppose, that knowledge of "you" getting randomly put together again for another round of meaningless struggle makes rebirth definitely more horrible an outcome as a final death.
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Re: How do other NPD feel about the prospect of dying?

Postby Grayskull » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:27 pm

I'm not sure how I feel about death as I have a backround "feeling" if that's the right word I should have died years ago. I'm more scared of becoming old feeble and dependent on other people for basic survival. Such as I can't care for myself etc. I think I'd prefer death. It's something I think about often. I have never felt like I belonged here anyway so maybe another existence is better or maybe none at all as well.

I'm not trying to trigger any Narcissistic injuries but I don't know how else to describe this. I think it's a natural part of npd (PD's in general) you spend your whole life being self centered and self oriented overly concerned with the self and not in building relationships or bonds with family and children which is what most people enjoy and take pride in when they age and brings them joy.. With people who have these types of personality disorders they realize they are alone and they are lonely and they have wasted their life chasing things that don't really matter in the overall picture and it's too late to go back and fix it. It's tough to deal with.
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Re: How do other NPD feel about the prospect of dying?

Postby Snaga » Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:17 pm

Grayskull wrote: I'm more scared of becoming old feeble and dependent on other people for basic survival. Such as I can't care for myself etc. I think I'd prefer death.


I think a fair number of people might prefer that. Whether they continue to prefer it might be another question, I suppose it depends on if they decide later they're terribly afraid of death, when push comes to shove in regards to how much lifespan is in the rear-view mirror.

Grayskull wrote:I think it's a natural part of npd (PD's in general) you spend your whole life being self centered and self oriented overly concerned with the self and not in building relationships or bonds with family and children which is what most people enjoy and take pride in when they age and brings them joy.. With people who have these types of personality disorders they realize they are alone and they are lonely and they have wasted their life chasing things that don't really matter in the overall picture and it's too late to go back and fix it. It's tough to deal with.


I don't even think you have to have a PD. Just be childless and that right there is enough to make you go 'hmmm' when you get older. I have no children, no passing of the torch, no one to look upon- also no one to support me in my dotage. It's a lonely way to go out of this world but what's done is done.
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Re: How do other NPD feel about the prospect of dying?

Postby Grayskull » Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:52 pm

Totally agree, the important thing is finding something to transition to that brings us joy. Some people are free of kids and the burden of family tying them down so they travel and do all the things they couldn’t do if they were attached. The difficult part is finding that thing that makes us happy
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Re: How do other NPD feel about the prospect of dying?

Postby MeAgain » Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:00 am

Religious belief is a codependent thing. In its most extreme form, a messiah complex. For counter dependents death is a goal. The inevitable conclusion to a futile existence.
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