Persona

id stay generous because i have a surplus

id stay generous to hound them about it until they finally gave me something

yeah women i guess are more emotionally driven like trying to go behind ur back but maybe men are more about arguments fights and confrontation

That makes sense - "mutual symbiosis"

So have you been in this overall situation before (or is it worst or not as bad)?
If so, how do you make it through (if that's appropriate to ask here)?

I think I'd prefer someone having issues to my face as opposed to the other stuff.

Do you have a preference to deal with when it comes to dealing with someone going behind your back/cattiness/passive agression versus arguments, fights and confrontation?

DaturaInnoxia wrote:What type of persona do you use?

Well if I was going to a job interview i’d be presenting a face of professional competence as opposed to that of hedonistic asshat.

You rarely actually say anything about yourself.

I rarely post much at all these days. Was there something in particular you wanted to know?

And you really are very selective of who you acknowledge which definitely makes you come off as if you believe you're superior.

It makes me wonder what would happen if everyone you don't talk to was gone.
The dynamic would be very different.
Do you feel it would make you happier or do you think you'd be bored?

A lot of the people I used knew better have gone, it definitely got duller.

It’s a lack of interest mostly. I interacted more when I first came here. Then after I’d spent quite a lot of time reading I had a period of trying to explain the various theoretical concepts to people. Ultimately however it seemed to me that many just went through the same cycles over and over again (probably including myself), so for the most part all I was doing was playing a role and enabling them to go round and round.

For example akuma and I have engaged repeatedly with the user currently calling herself vinistonemoss much as she might like to claim otherwise. By my count this must be account 5 or 6 for her by now. I’ve personally argued with 3 or 4 of them as either greebo or quoth and each time the discussion ultimately comes down to her own narrative and self image as an “empath” with super perceptive intuitive powers and superior self knowledge to everyone else. Tbh I’ve just lost interest and I’m far too lazy to keep spending my time explaining to someone why they are not a Star Trek character.

These days I respond to people if I’m bored, I enjoy the user or the question is interesting enough to me to motivate me to write something. You can attribute that to superiority if you like, though lack of motivation is probably closer to the truth. I don’t get much ‘reward’ from online interactions in the first place, regardless of their content or outcome and I usually just come away feeling drained. I generally will not pursue an arguement because mostly they go nowhere and I really don’t care who has the last word. Plus there are also real world time constraints.

Those users I favour tend to be either those who have greater knowledge and insight into the subject matter than myself, such as akuma and eight, those with relatable experience which are few and far between or those who’s thought shows a rational progression which I can follow like jomp, reaper, Z, and so on. I don’t engage much with users who’s thought processes I find difficult to follow, I just don’t know what to say and suspect I would just aggravate them if I did. Most of the newer users I don’t know well enough to offer an opinion on. That’s all there is to it really.

One additional thought: there is a certain hypocrisy in accusing anyone else of manipulation or dishonesty of any kind when the person doing it keeps reinventing themselves and hiding behind one new username after another. Admittedly I have more than one courtesy of seabreezeblue, but I’m not coy about telling people Quoth and Greebo are the same person. I don’t understand why you would expect me to engage with people behaving in quite such an underhanded way as if they were just like every other user. It’s a bit like overtly trying to trick someone and then expecting them to behave to you in good faith.

DaturaInnoxia wrote:That makes sense - "mutual symbiosis"

So have you been in this overall situation before (or is it worst or not as bad)?
If so, how do you make it through (if that's appropriate to ask here)?

I think I'd prefer someone having issues to my face as opposed to the other stuff.

Do you have a preference to deal with when it comes to dealing with someone going behind your back/cattiness/passive agression versus arguments, fights and confrontation?

idk what that means but it ok

i havnt really had people take this much from me thats what angers me

yeah issues to my face is faster

i prefer dealing with women sometimes cuz its a fun game, but guys are alright too like ill be confrontational but its more of a vulnerable spot for me than the games i like to play w women because i think how i was raised also i tend to get along w most people so it has never really been too much an issue.

Greebo wrote: ..

I'm perceiving you to be unopen about talking about your personas.

As far as I know ViniStonemoss has never hid their accounts so I'm not full sure what the issue with the different accounts.

Since almost everyone has done it, I see the topic the same way you describe repetitive.
You seem really upset with them at the moment though, so maybe I'm missing something.

You've mentiomed before that you get frusterated when you're unable to follow lines of thinking.
What is it that frustrates you so much about that?

-- Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:19 pm --

saucygirl31 wrote:

DaturaInnoxia wrote:That makes sense - "mutual symbiosis"

So have you been in this overall situation before (or is it worst or not as bad)?
If so, how do you make it through (if that's appropriate to ask here)?

I think I'd prefer someone having issues to my face as opposed to the other stuff.

Do you have a preference to deal with when it comes to dealing with someone going behind your back/cattiness/passive agression versus arguments, fights and confrontation?

idk what that means but it ok

i havnt really had people take this much from me thats what angers me

yeah issues to my face is faster

i prefer dealing with women sometimes cuz its a fun game, but guys are alright too like ill be confrontational but its more of a vulnerable spot for me than the games i like to play w women because i think how i was raised also i tend to get along w most people so it has never really been too much an issue.

I might be putting my own past experiences onto what you said.
One sided symbiotic relationships are parasites; a leech or a tapeworm etc.
Mutual symbiosis is where both profit; ants who milk/feed off aphids, but also protect them from other predators.

I saw all forms of give and take when I was using as mutual symbiosis. Using each other. Maybe I was wrong about referring the same to you.

That's concerning that you're in that situation; I hope it works out soon.

You've mentioned some of this stuff about women and men before way back in the closed down place.

On a tangent, I have a question for you. You've openly said you're bipolar here, have you ever been given gabapentin as a mood stabilizer?

I need a shrugging emoticon really, as far as I can see you got a fairly comprehensive and civil answer to your question.

The whole notion of your perception being something I should respond to is ridiculous. It relies on the idea that you have some kind of emotional radar, some ability to read between the lines in a reliable way. I don’t believe you do. In fact if you have a personality disorder it is by precisely those ‘intuitions’ you would be experiencing primitive defence mechanisms. I’m not going to go through confirming or denying or arguing with each assertion because there is simply no need. Equally I’m familiar enough with mental illness to know that if that’s your perception nothing I say or do will effect it. My only response to it at all is: good for you, I’m not interested.

With hiding behind new accounts I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy and entitlement of expecting openess from others when your behaviour is direct action to conceal. That frankly should not require much explanation.

If I’m wrong about this and it’s not an attempt to conceal and mislead, there is a simple test. List all your usernames.

As for the persona, you’d probably benefit more from looking it up yourself and understanding the concept rather than questioning me about it as if it was a collection of DID alts because I don’t think you understand it and I’m clearly failing to get the notion across.

ViniStonemoss wrote:Do you alter your persona to gain validation? How conscious of an agenda is that? How do you feel if you catch yourself?

No.
its also unlogical, because what would be validated then would be the persona, not the actual person.

Esmoke wrote:I don’t think I do that. Can you give an example?

I have a friend, with NPD traits, and he keeps telling me what I want to hear. I assume he hopes I will validate him if he does, and it's true he is smart beyond his years, but it just prevents me from getting to know him. He is not being manipulative, I don't think he is aware.

Basically what was said above, but I started to type first

Greebo wrote:...

Apologies.

I just see a lot of words about others and concepts, but a high level of avoidance for you to actually talk about yourself, so I was curious - and disappointed that it continued.

As for the accounts, I had been called out and quoted by a member before our change of location occurred.
You're free to go over there and check.

Given you'd like me to do that because you see it as a source of vulnerability which needs to be concealed, do you dislike vulnerability yourself?

I would say I was very open in my response to this post - and I often am in general.

With the term persona, the topics in these posts usually just get people talking about anything relevant to them.

I don't think I'm refering to DID alters when I say you're not open to talking about your personas

Are you this selective about who you talk to in real life?
And if so, does it make people angry?

I would ask what you're like in real life, but it's probably inappropriate timing.

The only two questions I'm really interested in now are the last two.

Also, speaking of DID alters, if you saw my reply about personas to this post, do you think my changes in dealing with the psychiatrist and my caseworker and stepping into autopilot when stressed could be somehow very vaguely related even though I know it's still me?