Differential diagnosis narcissism psychopathy

I'm neither but I've been accused of being both.

HSS wrote:My question wasn't directed to you personally, it's a public forum. We can't know everyone's experience and life.

My thought process has nothing to do with personal or impersonal but with you asking a question that implies statistics, which you cant have access to if you have not experienced a significant amount of people in each of the 3 groups. People who meet that amount of people with rare personality disorders either spend time in jail, or in mental hospitals (mostly you would require also not inmates or patients but professionals to answer this question) - or they are insane and are projecting and merely believe they are surrounded by such people.
So first stop for this would probably be resarchgate or google scholar, not a forum like this.
If youre lookin for generalized theories from the psychoanalytic field, I would point towards Donald Meltzer and The Claustrum. He never used those DSM-esque terminology though and as a Neo-Kleinian can be hard to digest.

Akuma wrote:My thought process has nothing to do with personal or impersonal but with you asking a question that implies statistics, which you cant have access to if you have not experienced a significant amount of people in each of the 3 groups. People who meet that amount of people with rare personality disorders either spend time in jail, or in mental hospitals (mostly you would require also not inmates or patients but professionals to answer this question) - or they are insane and are projecting and merely believe they are surrounded by such people.
So first stop for this would probably be resarchgate or google scholar, not a forum like this.
If youre lookin for generalized theories from the psychoanalytic field, I would point towards Donald Meltzer and The Claustrum. He never used those DSM-esque terminology though and as a Neo-Kleinian can be hard to digest.

A forum like this?

https://180rule.com/narcissistic-entitl ... st-things/

I found this site to be quite enjoyable to go through. Maybe it´ll be of use to OP. There is some articles about differentiating between NPD and full-blown psychopathy but there´s some things that are pointed out as being equal.

Tbh, I have an insecure core. But I don´t think that makes me any less psychopathic...if anything, it´s somewhat even more so because the mask of sanity has to be all-encompassing because the insecurity makes me feel like I will be ´drawn out´ somehow.

SelfSerf wrote:https://180rule.com/narcissistic-entitlement-psychopaths-say-the-darndest-things/

I found this site to be quite enjoyable to go through. Maybe it´ll be of use to OP. There is some articles about differentiating between NPD and full-blown psychopathy but there´s some things that are pointed out as being equal.

Tbh, I have an insecure core. But I don´t think that makes me any less psychopathic...if anything, it´s somewhat even more so because the mask of sanity has to be all-encompassing because the insecurity makes me feel like I will be ´drawn out´ somehow.

I have seen that article before, though, never heard of the site. Apparently reposted from 4chan.

do you have violence in your background?

Jonna wrote:I have seen that article before, though, never heard of the site. Apparently reposted from 4chan.

do you have violence in your background?

Well that would depend on what you mean by violence (Jordan Peterson )

But in short, not really. My family growing up was not violent, except maybe emotionally controlling. And neglectful. Why do you ask?

Manners73 wrote:I'm neither but I've been accused of being both.

Okay but I wouldn't live it as an accusation; especially hostility towards society, in this historical moment where there is the highest hypocrisy peak I ever seen in our society!

A large part of me wishes society and human civilization would burn down into a desolate wasteland but I don’t want to get to negative on here

Esmoke wrote:A large part of me wishes society and human civilization would burn down into a desolate wasteland but I don’t want to get to negative on here

In my experience, this reaction is born more out of a failure to socially deal with others than a genuine desire to see humanity destroyed.

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HSS wrote:Moreover: not sure if it's always this way, but I noticed that the psychopath is more childish. The narcissist is childish too, but the psychopath is more childish. It's an oral temperament. Hare (who studied them) writes that he suspects something happened during fetal age. In my personal experience, there is something like a new-born baby, or a one-two years old toddle; this explains why he can be so ductile too. But this is very hard to be noticed, because he is great to hide himself. Moreover, even if this is true, sometimes he voluntarily plays the part of the little toddle.

I'm trying to think of a definition of "childish" that can apply to what you're saying

I would find an example of how you think a psychopath is more childish to be helpful

Stunted development. I don't like to admit it, but most of my errant behaviour has been born of child-like reactions. A violent child having a tantrum is annoying, sometimes amusing, but take that behaviour and put it into an experienced and physically capable adult and you have a dangerous person, with little empathy and no remorse.

Interesting. I was originally associating emotions as being closer to the idea of "childish" - as opposed to violence or overt "tantrums"