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Re: Sex

Postby solemnlysworn » Wed May 16, 2018 8:14 pm

"I have God on my side" is another classic
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Re: Sex

Postby shock_the_monkey » Wed May 16, 2018 10:26 pm

solemnlysworn wrote:"I have God on my side" is another classic

... god doesn't take side. and god doesn't condemn. and those that would tell you otherwise aren't very spiritually advanced. i must admit that i marvel at all those types that would tell me to repent, because there they are wasting their lives doing what they believe to be god's will, when god would rather them be surfing breakers somewhere.
something knocked me out' the trees
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i can't take any more
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Re: Sex

Postby perejil » Wed May 16, 2018 10:29 pm

solemnlysworn wrote:"Jesus loves me"

I wonder how many people that statement has turned into narcissists


You sound almost angry. Are you? Is that because you believe in the value of objective truth?

-- Wed May 16, 2018 2:34 pm --

shock_the_monkey wrote:... god doesn't take side. and god doesn't condemn. and those that would tell you otherwise aren't very spiritually advanced. i must admit that i marvel at all those types that would tell me to repent, because there they are wasting their lives doing what they believe to be god's will, when god would rather them be surfing breakers somewhere.


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Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.

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Re: Sex

Postby shock_the_monkey » Wed May 16, 2018 10:52 pm

perejil wrote:
shock_the_monkey wrote:... god doesn't take side. and god doesn't condemn. and those that would tell you otherwise aren't very spiritually advanced. i must admit that i marvel at all those types that would tell me to repent, because there they are wasting their lives doing what they believe to be god's will, when god would rather them be surfing breakers somewhere.


How do you know that?

... because: 1) god is in all of us, 2) god is love and love never condemns, and 3) god didn't create the world for people to go around guilt-tripping others in their name, because ...

genesis 1:31 - god saw all that he had made and it was very good.

... and that wouldn't be at all good.
something knocked me out' the trees
now i'm on my knees
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

there is one thing you must be sure of
i can't take any more
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

don't like it but i guess i'm learning

... shock the monkey to life
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Re: Sex

Postby perejil » Wed May 16, 2018 10:58 pm

But god sent Jesus to atone for the sins of the world. And even Jesus got mad at the money changers.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.

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Re: Sex

Postby shock_the_monkey » Wed May 16, 2018 11:39 pm

perejil wrote:But god sent Jesus to atone for the sins of the world. And even Jesus got mad at the money changers.

... jesus came to fulfil the law. he came to show others how to live their lives in harmony with god's will. he didn't come to atone for the sins of the world. that is the greatest travesty of the christian church, and a throwback to the jewish tradition of people sacrificing animals to god as a way of atoning for their sins. and jesus was a man, not god. he referred to god as his father. it's little wonder that he lost his rag with the money changers at the temple, because i'm sure he rejected the idea of people sacrificing animals to god as a way to atone for their sins.

in short, simply saying the magic words isn't a free pass through the pearly gates. the god that jesus would have recognised had more to do with eastern religious traditions. indeed, there are those that believe that it was in the east that he spent what are referred to as his lost years.
something knocked me out' the trees
now i'm on my knees
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

there is one thing you must be sure of
i can't take any more
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

don't like it but i guess i'm learning

... shock the monkey to life
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Re: Sex

Postby shock_the_monkey » Thu May 17, 2018 12:40 am

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i can't take any more
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

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... shock the monkey to life
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Re: Sex

Postby perejil » Thu May 17, 2018 1:08 am

Other reasons why someone might do the "self-righteous sniper thing":
(copied from another thread)

smug self satisfaction
emotional sadism
emotional masochism
to gain attention
to validate self loathing
as a distraction from pain
to establish a sense of self
to (badly) practice assertiveness
to stir the pot/create drama/for thrills
to save oneself by saving an imagined "victim"
because negtive feedback feels natural and positive feedback feels unnatural
as a cry for help
to play Cinderella to someone else's wicked stepmother (I would define this one as a need to play the victim and/or a need for an adversary/scapegoat.)
to satisfy a need for emotional intensity
as a way of achieving catharsis.
copying/mimicking an influential person
for political reasons/to curry favor/because they have a vendetta.
obsessive/compulsive tendencies (i.e. the tendency to overkill without meaning to)
transference/attacking someone because of what you're reading into them. Attacking someone or something because of what they've come to represent in your mind.
to punish someone (or oneself) by punishing an imagined aggressor.
lack of social awareness/being out of sync with others/not understanding what is called for by the situation
to make a valid point
to test boundaries/limits; see what you can get away with
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Re: Sex

Postby perejil » Thu May 17, 2018 1:27 am

The previous post picks up on PolarBear's/Contrast's/SJR's comments about what is a good versus a weak/pathetic motive for doing (what I'm calling) "the self righteous sniper thing", and has nothing to do with religion.
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Re: Sex

Postby perejil » Thu May 17, 2018 2:24 am

I'd be curious to know which of those motives would get poster's thumbs up of approval (because they accomplish/gain something important) and which would be deemed weak/pathetic?
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